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15 September 2004 @ 01:58 pm
Ed's Birthday, Name information, and random...  
Hello community >3

I don't know if anyone's put these pieces together yet. I can't say I've stumbled upon this information anywhere else other than my own Notepad document (but then again I don't look very hard o_o). I figured since I don't ever see myself having time to put together a webpage for this information, I'd share it with the community ^_^ I'm sure someone can use it.

... Has Ed's birth date ever been given? o_O I think this answer is no. So I'll draw my own conclusions for that... and then everything else spawns out of that date.

I would not be surprised if Edward's birthday was January 17, 1899. I'd put a lot of money on that date, if I had money to put out ^^;. Edward's birthday (and Elysia's) would have to be near the end of January, because it's not February. The boy's performed the transmutation of their mother Feb 2, 1910 and were 10 and 11 respectively. Still in October (when they burnt their house) they were 10 and 11. At this time Gracia was 5 months pregnant, so Jan 17 is nearly 9 months - thus coincidential January birthdays. Ed would HAVE to be 12 for Feb 2, 1911

Why January 17, 1899? This is the birthday of a very famous person named Al Capone. This is where the first names of the FMA character's comes about. Al Capone's real name is Alphonse Capone.

Alphonse Capone had a nickname he detested due to a knifing insident that left him with a gash on his face. From then onwards he was given the nickname Scarface (Scar... scar has a scar on his face... etc).

Alphonse Capone had a corrupt lawyer working for him named Easy Eddie. Easy Eddie's job was to keep Al Capone out of jail at all costs. Easy Eddie's read name was Edward O'Hare - father of Butch O'Hare who was a famous WWII pilot who faught against the Japanese Zeros. O'Hare Airport is named after him. (I believe the FMA last names are from WWII planes? *connects dots*)

In 1918 Al Capone married a lady by the name of Mary Caughlin - who went by the nickname of "Mae" (... oh boy XD;)

Al Capone hired on a gentleman by the name of Alex Louis Greenberg to buy out Malt-Maid (later known as the Manhattan Brewing Company) and do other corrupt business for him.

Police Cheif Hughes was highered to get rid of the corruption the Chicago police system XD;;; but ended up being corrupted himself. (Hughes was also the name of one of those WWII planes the last names are based off, but I threw him in cause his name came up).

The boy he hired to drive him around in his fancy car was named Roy.

Mmm... I haven't had much time to do research to find more associated names since I originally compiled all this... so feel free to help the list out ^_^. I'd thought I'd had a few more from the Al Capone connection, but there was nothing more in my document o_O.

Some final thoughts... I'm going to guess Al's birthday is December 30th, because he and Ed are pretty much a year appart, and December 30th was the day Al Capone got married ^^; it looks like a good date, and Al is a good Capricorn. He could also have been born Dec 25 - I also like this date because FMA has run episodes over the Christmas season twice and not done any celebrating for it what so ever. If Al's birthday is on Christmas, and the series were to have a Christmas episode, they'd end up having to mention Al's birthday (and then we'd have an actual date for someone! God forbid we get that much information on anyone XD;).

As a footnote - When Ed O'Hare was killed (by Al Capone for betraying him), they found a poem in his pocket... the poem he had makes me think of our Ed Elric

The clock of life is wound but once
And no man has the power
To tell just when the hands will stop
At late or early hour.
Now is the only time you own.
Live, love, toil with a will.
Place no faith in time.
For the clock may soon be still.

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Llewelyn1314 on September 15th, 2004 01:24 pm (UTC)
Freaky and interesting...I'd say this is worthy of skipping homework XD
Danikillcity on September 15th, 2004 01:27 pm (UTC)
Whoa! That's alot of great info *saves page*
Kathleenkimmycat on September 15th, 2004 01:33 pm (UTC)
Didn't they burn their house on October 3rd?

But otherwise that is GREAT research. Pretty neat too.

XD Roy the chauffer
Yuuki Hikariyuukihikari on September 15th, 2004 01:37 pm (UTC)
Yup, it was Oct 3. I couldn't think of the exact day while I was typing (XD; I just remember it's really close to my b-day) so I was going to "come back to it" ^^; oh well, October is good enough - we all know what date it is in Oct anyways =3
Cynthia: Edwardcsakuras on September 15th, 2004 01:34 pm (UTC)
Omg...you've done a heck of a lot of research. And if this is true...then Arakawa did a heck of a lot of research too (I mean, more so than she already has).
I love how this series draws things from real life facts. ^_^
Yuuki Hikariyuukihikari on September 15th, 2004 01:45 pm (UTC)
The amount of information Arakawa put in is craxy o.o *luvluv* everytime I dug something new up, it connected to something else somewhere (like the O'Hara connection... Edward O'Hara's son being Butch O'Hara (WWII pilot)... all the last names being planes from WWII. I found that out a few days ago when I was avoiding homework sorting my info. It's so much fun... all this stuff that's gone into making FMA.
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Cynthia: Edwardcsakuras on September 15th, 2004 01:39 pm (UTC)
"He could also have been born Dec 25 - I also like this date because FMA has run episodes over the Christmas season twice and not done any celebrating for it what so ever."

Perhaps they don't have Christmas? Since the Christ dating system is so archaic, and it seems everyone isn't that religious... They might have some kind of Winter Solstice, but not necessarily on the 25th.
But good work nonetheless! ^-^
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(no subject) - yuukihikari on September 15th, 2004 02:01 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Mikefinnell1912 on September 15th, 2004 01:47 pm (UTC)
Bravo, I've done my own time line dealing to see how old everyone was when X happened. I think I manged to nail down approximate birthyears for all the characters but no where near this.

Very nice work with all the Al Capone stuff. It may not be "true" but it's certainly very very interesting.
Yuuki Hikariyuukihikari on September 15th, 2004 02:03 pm (UTC)
In the end, if it turns out to be untrue, at the very least it's an entertaining conicidence. X3
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whimsy-chan: pensivewhimsy_chan on September 15th, 2004 02:04 pm (UTC)
I kinda think the reason they haven't done a Christmas epsiode is because there's no Christianity. They've referenced it a few times, but I always got the impression that it was a dead religion. In fact, I think Dante says something along those lines (or maybe just implies it...?) in episode 44. I'd have to go back and check to be sure.

Also, they aren't using anno domini anymore. Neither are we, but I think it was much later than the early 20th century when we switched over to common era. Again, I'd have to do more research to be sure of that, but it also leads me to suspect that Christianity isn't practiced anymore in FMA-world.

As for Ed's and Al's birthdays--that sounds pretty good to me! Without doing any kind of research I figured Ed's birthday must be between November (at the very earliest) and January, and Al's must be within the next three months, or no later than the end of January. I never thought to include the length of Gracia's pregnancy when I was trying to figure out my timeline, though. I'll have to include that now. ^__^
Yuuki Hikariyuukihikari on September 15th, 2004 02:29 pm (UTC)
Yeah, there's a definate lack of main-stream religion in this series. With the exception of Lior and Ishbal, we don't get to touch on any religious dealings that involve the main population.
Ve: teruteruboozu - woofdana_fields on September 15th, 2004 02:07 pm (UTC)
WOW! So interesting! I love how Hagaren is (or seems to be) related to so many things!
kiraqueen on September 15th, 2004 02:25 pm (UTC)
*brain explodes*

Homework-avoiding proportions indeed. That's just SO NIFTY...
PDUTogepipdutogepi on September 15th, 2004 02:26 pm (UTC)
WOW! That is some impressive stuff you've done here X3 To bad no place holds classes on this show I think you'd get top marks for this research *lol*
Marikaitou_marina on September 15th, 2004 02:32 pm (UTC)
YAY! See, if that's right, that makes Ed a Capricorn, *guesses anime character birthdays based on astrology* which I had him pegged as ANYWAY. He's just very... Capricorn-ish. Steady climing towards goals, stubborness, likes to ram his head against things, figuratively and literally (GOAT!), a perchant for being morose occasionally, it all fits.

Subsequently, I had Roy pegged as a Leo. Not only is it a fire sign, but the ego, self-confidence and ambition certainly fit the bill (Leos are "the royalty of the zodiac"). I haven't really thought of the other characters yet, but now that you've given a general idea of where Al's birthday might be in relation to Ed's, I'd better think about him too XD
Yuuki Hikariyuukihikari on September 15th, 2004 02:45 pm (UTC)
Would you like me to add to your Capricorn theory :D

The cardinal sin "Sloth" will be defeated by the contrary virtue "Diligence". Diligence is ruled by the celestial sign of Saturn. Saturn rules over the Capricorn sign. *connects more dots*

XD; how's that one for weird.
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Zranazrana on September 15th, 2004 02:49 pm (UTC)
Arakawa maybe is a fan or something of late 1800s, early 1900s? People get ideas and pulls things from the most interesting of places sometimes....

Does Ed's birthday have to be Jan? Could the months be flipped? no wait, Hughes's daughter... *just wanted Ed to be a bit over a year older than AL, due to flash back pictures when Al was still an infant but Ed looked more than a year older...*

I'm horrid at researching. I'd do math homework to avoid research usually. *isn't much for history* But I'd much prefer watching anime or dealing with anime than any homework. =D
Marikaitou_marina on September 15th, 2004 07:48 pm (UTC)
It snowed on his birthday in one episode, so no, there's no way the months could be flipped XD Unless it was snowing in July XD
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Procrastination Queen: FMA - Don't Forget.forever_slash on September 15th, 2004 02:49 pm (UTC)
DUDE. I never would have thought that the last names came from WWII planes. That's socool!

And, since I'm a geek with a strange passion for warplane history, I did some research, too.

Douglas A-20G Havoc
E2C Hawkeye
P-52 Mustang and F-82 Twin Mustang
Fairchild PT-19 Cornell (uhhh, Cornello? I dunno. ^^;;)

I couldn't find anything on a Hughes, except this site about a guy named Hughes who made airplanes.

All that stuff about Al Capone is so interesting. It'd be one crazy coincidence if all that was accidental. XD
Yuuki Hikariyuukihikari on September 15th, 2004 02:55 pm (UTC)
I think all of the info that Arakawa has put in is just incredible. The stuff about the planes I actually found out from http://www.scimitarsmile.com/ (a friend showed it to me one day). Go into Resources > Miliatary Notes > Air Craft Names. There's also lots of other good reading son that site too.
From: fullmetal-alchemist.com - crysiana on September 15th, 2004 02:59 pm (UTC) (Expand)
correction for the first link. - crysiana on September 15th, 2004 03:00 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Yuuki Hikariyuukihikari on September 15th, 2004 03:05 pm (UTC)
On a random note, I finally did sit down and start my homework. The class I've been avoiding is "Introduction to Microeconomics".

Page #5

Principle #2: The cost of something is what you give up to get it

The "Opportunity Cost" of an item is what you give up to get that item. Decision namkers should be aware of the opportunity costs that accompany each possible action.

..... my FMA obsession is haunting me o_O;
Cynthiacsakuras on September 15th, 2004 03:09 pm (UTC)
パイロチャン 「Pyrochan」: schwarz-pr0npyroh on September 15th, 2004 03:16 pm (UTC)
Kya~ I was so close too. I went as far as to count Gracia's pregnancy, but ended up forgeting about the date in Ed's watch ^^;; Stupid me. Then again, I was so stuck on the idea of him being Sagittarius... I should have focused on facts first, not on starsigns >_>

I love how everything connects together so nicely ^_^ Thanks for sharing!