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04 September 2004 @ 04:57 pm
Pride Theory  
I was thinking this up last night before I went to sleep. So don't blame me if it's a completely crack theory.



Pride is known as the Deadly Sin that all other Sins stem from. I was thinking about that last night, and it occured to me that since that's true, should Pride be "Father"? It's not mentioned how old he is or anything.

There are lots of problems with this though. Who created "Father"? Randomness involving his health and wires and stuff (unless I'm misinterpreting the huge ass tube-thrown thingy as a life-support thing, and it's really just a funky design).

But I personally find "Ed is the manga Pride" a crackpot theory. ... Then again, I also thought that Ed's father making Envy in the anime was a crackpot theory myself, and look where that got me.
 
 
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Meredith: Ed ~ grumpy uke [yukihime9yukihime9 on September 4th, 2004 04:14 pm (UTC)
Out of curiousity, where are you getting the manga chapters?
Poison Envy: Seme [by lykomancer]winter_ruins on September 4th, 2004 04:16 pm (UTC)
It's listed under our memories. All the same:

Toriyamaworld - http://www.toriyamaworld.com/fma/
-upto volume 4
Full Metal Alchemist - http://www.fullmetal-alchemist.com
-upto volume 7
Anime Source - http://www.anime-source.com/banzai/modules.php?name=Content&pa=list_pages_categories&cid=20
-Chapter 26 and up
chrononuriko on September 4th, 2004 04:20 pm (UTC)
You beat me to it, darn you! *Shakes fist*
Poison Envy: I'm the bombwinter_ruins on September 4th, 2004 04:21 pm (UTC)
**Snicker** XDD
Meredithyukihime9 on September 4th, 2004 07:01 pm (UTC)
Thanks :).
Poison Envy: Happy with me [by yumeminouta]winter_ruins on September 4th, 2004 07:15 pm (UTC)
You're welcome. ^^
chrononuriko on September 4th, 2004 04:20 pm (UTC)
chrononuriko on September 4th, 2004 04:15 pm (UTC)
The 'Father' is more than likely Hohenheim...I mean, he looks exactly like him >_>;

Though the theory does stand some ground, kinda...it's either that or Pride doesn't exist yet (or was created after Greed was sealed)...since Greed said everyone was there except Sloth...
Poison Envy: =# [by hork13bajir5]winter_ruins on September 4th, 2004 04:21 pm (UTC)
I agree on that part. XD I thought so too, when I first saw him Or maybe all of you just brainwashed me into believing it before I saw it.

I believe that in the anime, Greed also said "so all seven of us are around now" (either that or Envy said it, but Greed didn't question it), and as far as I know, he couldn't've known about Anime!Pride (assuming that Anime!Pride is the same age as Manga!Wrath)... *Shrugs* XD
chrononuriko on September 4th, 2004 04:26 pm (UTC)
That's true, and Dante did state, much like Father did, that Anime!Pride is a homunculi that can age...but eh, perhaps she kept him around long enough in a non-aging state and then when he became Fuhrer he started aging? Like...he can control when he ages or not, or something, I dunno.

Considering how he is also Greed's 'brother' (in the manner that they were both created by Dante)...I suppose he'd definitely know about him if he was around before he was sealed.

Or maybe, just maybe, the anime writers messed up one mundane detail.

Oh, and Envy icon parade!
Poison Envy: Fandom has Envy [gift from rosa_aquafirewinter_ruins on September 4th, 2004 04:31 pm (UTC)
That could... almost make sense. After all, how great is "Oh, this guy can change form at will, and this lady here can stab anything she wants, and this guy over here can eat whatever. Me? Oh, I can age." He may be able to control it, much like Envy and the others can control their powers.


XD I have like, 10 icons with Envy in them. I want more, but I don't wanna get rid of any of my current icons... Well, I might have an Ed one and a Roy one that I might replace if I get the chance...
billypilgrim on September 4th, 2004 05:53 pm (UTC)
Can I make that line into an icon, please? xD;
Poison Envywinter_ruins on September 4th, 2004 06:02 pm (UTC)
XD Go ahead. =3
billypilgrim on September 4th, 2004 05:45 pm (UTC)
My theory is that Hohienhemm "Father" swallowed, or something absorbed the Philospher's stone, and like in manga!Canon, a Sin is created by body matieraials merging with the stone. So, Hohienhemm is manga!Pride. He doesn't age like a Homonculus, but perhaps can use Alchemy for having a previously human body? He'd need it to create the other sins.

I also have my theories on Al becoming the new Greed, but that's real crack-potty.
Poison Envy: Against all Odds [by _metamorphic]winter_ruins on September 4th, 2004 06:09 pm (UTC)
You mean, I'm not the only one with the theory? (Yours is better thought out, but still XD). Yay! Go me! *dances**

Crackpot theories is what make this fandom one of my favorites. (And the fact that you can do almost anything, and you can get away with it. Pair Gluttony with Hughes in any other fandom (or the equivalent), and you'd get flamed. Not here though!)
billypilgrim on September 4th, 2004 06:20 pm (UTC)
Just play Dream Carnival, it's team, so it creates the most crackpot pairings I could ever think up.

I think one time came up Greed/Izumi.. And Roy/Gluttony.. And Riza/Lust..
summerwolf on September 4th, 2004 07:28 pm (UTC)
I've been waiting to try Roy and Scar as a team and see how they can fight without killing each other first...
Terradoomfish on September 5th, 2004 10:41 am (UTC)
He may be able to control it, much like Envy and the others can control their powers.

Hm I read the manga today but it doesn't seem he can control how he ages?! He has a family... o_O *was really surprised* ..and he is old.
so I think he didn't use his ability yet. Or he really can't control it... maybe the only thing special is that he CAN age unlike the others.
(it's really very useless for a homunculus... it's only special)

hm that's what I think. ^^