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26 August 2004 @ 02:00 am
Random things and talking about Episode 45  
I know this is just a weird thing I just wanted to say.

I've gotten used to Paku Romi doing Edward's voice. Its like second nature to listen to Ed scream "IM NOT A SHRIMP". How tough that must of been for the voice talent. I hope she had a lot of water so her voice didnt cramp up. Im not going to be used to the Americanized version of Full Metal Alchemist when it comes on Cartoon Network. I can watch it when it comes on in october...But I prolly wont care lol. I kind of liked Episode 45. It was rather interesting to see hoienhiem (Gods I hope I spelled that right) And Dante talking. But when he saw Sloth. Old memories flooded back to him. With every highly emotional episode, i found myself on the edge of tears. I was shocked. And it was the same with Episode 44 when Edward was finding peices of his mom. And then asking Izumi for something from the baby that she tried to resurect. Ed knows his fate.

But why is Alphonse going to Shou Tucker? Perhaps since he is the Philosiphers Stone, he can bring back Nina? I mean Nina was a precious character in the past episodes. I really cried when she died. But how are they going to call her soul back to her body when they do bring her back. And Im also wondering why Ed is forbidding Alphonse to not do alchemy. I just have a lot of questions floating in my mind. Last thing about Hoienhiem...He accepted his fate...And why is Dante using Rose? Thats just not right ;-;!! I like Rose!! Why does she have to get used by such an evil woman!!!!!

:sigh: Ohhh well I hope the end of the series is about as good as its start :3 I really enjoyed this series..but Episode 51 is coming awefully close. I guess I'll just wait till its all out and everyone can draw conclusions for themselves.
 
 
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The Sky: Gackt - Scar : me_wasurenai on August 26th, 2004 01:14 am (UTC)
X3 I know just how you feel about the dub of FMA. I'm way too used to Paku Romi's amazing talents in this series, and don't think I'll be watching the dub. I'll probably by the DVDs and stick strictly to the subbed version. The one thing I don't want to hear from the dub is the US version of Ed screaming or crying. XD Just because I'm afraid it'll ruin it for me - with the original version, Ed's tortured screams or cries always give me shivers. ; ; It's just amazing talent!

As far as Al going to Shou, I think the main reason Al has gone to Tucker isn't even because of Nina. I'm guessing that he's just so close to his goal that he can't put it off any longer. He wants his brothers normal body back, and he wants his own body back. He thinks Tucker can teach him how to properly use the stone, and so he'll do whatever to get that knowledge.

As far as Ed not wanting Al to use alchemy, I think it's smart. We don't know what will happen - after all, it's obvious now that over use the Philosophers Stone disappears (Dante's piece of it is gone now) - so every time Al uses alchemy now a little bit of him will disappear! ; ; So, it was a good call on Ed's part to have him not do anything.

>> As far as Roze/Rose goes .. I never liked her, so! XD I do kind of feel bad for her recently with these episodes, though, since she just seems to CONSTANTLY be being used by someone. @_@;

T_T 6 weeks to go, ne. What will I do once FMA finishes! O_O I'll be lacking that "amazing anime" every week that I need to quench this thirst! FMA will leave a big void.
《 √esse 》: Gone // Tokyo Babyloninnate on August 26th, 2004 02:15 am (UTC)
Well, I personally didn't like Rose at all at the beginning. I just thought of her as annoying an cliché. However, I gained some respect for her when she fought to get her voice back, and tried to save Ed. She seemed to have gained some maturity. However, after every bad thing that's happened in this series, I feel much more sorry for a bunch of other characters than I do her.

And I agree that I just think Al is going to Tucker to learn how to restore his body and Ed's limbs. I think perhaps it's a trade. In exchange for the knowledge, he'll bring Nina back. They're both desperate, so they're going to trust each other.

I know I'll have to watch the first episode of Hagaren dubbed just because... I have to. But I've heard a clip of Ed's voice, and I loath it. Paku Romi does too good of a job. I liked her as Heimdall in Matantei Loki, but I fell in love with her as Ed. Well...her voice anyway. She really is great with her screams and crying. Very realistic.

Also, Al's seiyuu is masterful as well. Sometimes it just really hits me hard. Like when Al was in danger of exploding in episode...42 was it? Something like that. At the very beginning, when he was mumbling, stumbled, collapsed, and then after how he talked... I was greatly moved by his confusion, weakness,and fear. Sigh...

I don't know what I'll do when Hagaren ends. There is the possibility of that movie they keep talking about...that comes out in 2005 or something. But this has become a fast favorite for me.
DragonSoulhitokuse on August 26th, 2004 01:25 am (UTC)
About Rose-- The whole scene between Dante and Hoenhiem was about how there is no such thing as eternal life and that they're eventually die/disappear once their soul's decompose past the point of sustaining a body-- Perhaps Dante is keeping Rose around to use her body, the way the past Dante used Ryla's?
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《 √esse 》: Bleed // Angel Featherinnate on August 26th, 2004 02:08 am (UTC)
Yeah. Me three. -nods-
Saya Aensland: BWAHAHA!saya_aensland on August 26th, 2004 06:05 am (UTC)
hoienhiem (Gods I hope I spelled that right)

Hohenheim. For some reason, a lot of people insist on spelling it "Hohenhiem", but that's because they know zip about German spelling (not that I'm an expert in it, but I know some basics).
filling spatial gaps with prime value: by iconthesis - the hard wayamai_unmei on August 26th, 2004 06:28 am (UTC)
But why is Alphonse going to Shou Tucker?

I'm wondering the same thing! :\ I know Al is supposed to be guileless, but GEEZ ... how much betrayal can this kid take?

And Im also wondering why Ed is forbidding Alphonse to not do alchemy.

Every time Al touches an alchemist, he is shown the Gate. And Ed is so scared of that Gate now that he's not about to have Al expose himself to it again by using alchemy.

Last thing about Hoienhiem...He accepted his fate...

Yup. I don't think Hohenheim went into Dante's lair expecting to get out alive. He was just hesitating too much.

But then again, when you look at their history, it's pretty clear that even though Dante has pretty much always been a disturbed person ... Hohenheim has definitely done wrong as well. Not just with transmuting all of those people (Dante mentioned several "experiments"), but Dante seems to suggest that Hohenheim claimed to love her before ultimately leaving her. And when Hohenheim said that Trisha was "the only woman he'd ever loved", I was screaming, "What about Ross?!!!"

Yeah. That was smooth ... telling a dangerous alchemist that her delusions of love were, indeed, illusions. I knew he was going to die right then and there.

And why is Dante using Rose?

Rose will be the next host.
Poison Envy: Against all Odds [by _metamorphic]winter_ruins on August 26th, 2004 06:42 am (UTC)
I've gotten used to Paku Romi doing Edward's voice.

Me too! I've hated next to all the dubs I've seen in the past three years (before then, I didn't watch subs...>.>), so I have a feeling I'm going to hate this one. I live in Canada, though, so I don't get Cartoon Network. I'm either going to have to wait for YTV to pick it up, or wait for the DVDs to come here.

But when he saw Sloth. Old memories flooded back to him. With every highly emotional episode, i found myself on the edge of tears. I was shocked.

I was, too! I really like the Hohenheim. It was depressing to see him go beyond the gate (I want him to come back!). And it really touched me to know that within 400 years, Trica was the only one he married and the only one he ever loved (Dante said that he said he loved her, too. But he was young back then, and I don't think he knew what love quite felt like. I think he was more grateful to her for saving his life?)

But why is Alphonse going to Shou Tucker?

It's to learn how to use the Philosopher stone, that's pretty clear so far. But why go to Tucker? I think it might because Tucker spent all that time in the fifth lab with the Homonculus, so Al thinks that they would've taught him how to use it (since he pretty much knew how to make it at the time).

And Im also wondering why Ed is forbidding Alphonse to not do alchemy.

Well, someone else said because the Philosopher Stone disappears after it's used a little bit. But look at the size of the rock originally. It was pretty small. And it lasted two people for 400 years. I don't think that is too much of a concern, plus, Al and Ed don't know that yet. They think the Philospher's stone is some great thing, with the power of like, God. They wouldn't think of such a thing.

In the manga, Ed didn't like Al doing clappy alchemy because that was one of the only things (besides being older), that Ed had that was better/Al didn't have. On top of that, he doesn't know what will happen. He probably remembers when he was just in the incomplete Philosopher's Stone at the 5th lab. He couldn't control it or anything. With the complete stone actually being inside Al, who know's what will happen? I mean, he can't even touch Ed anymore. Not to mention, Ed's also afraid of what will happen to Al. The stones inside him. It might make him implode or explode or something of the like. He has no clue.


Last thing about Hoienhiem...He accepted his fate...

Which is extremely depressing! He should fight it! FIGHT IT!

And why is Dante using Rose? Thats just not right ;-;!!

Because Rose is pretty, and Dante likes pretty girls. Look at Lyra. XD

:sigh: Ohhh well I hope the end of the series is about as good as its start :3 I really enjoyed this series..but Episode 51 is coming awefully close. I guess I'll just wait till its all out and everyone can draw conclusions for themselves.


I'm just glad the Bleach anime is coming out around that time. I'll probably start downloading it afterwards.
-rosa_aquafire on August 26th, 2004 08:44 am (UTC)
I don`t know about your take on Hohenheim/Dante ... it may just be because I ship them for some bizarre reason, but I found that Dante implied she and Hohenheim had both a romantic and a sexual past together ...

My personal theory is that Envy and Greed were there children. *nod*
reversing the polarity of the neutron flow: *loads gun* Die Envy DIE!shinraisei on August 26th, 2004 11:49 am (UTC)
Well, ( i didn't watch an english sub but a french one so, quoting my be slightly different) I don't know if I my mind was being polluted or anything but that line where Dante said 'I haven't had a chance to test out this new body yet' while licking her arm had me going that she wanted something from Hohenheim and it, judging by her tone of voice, sounded like wanted to *ahem* 'get it on' with Hohenheim.

(*headdesk*) >_>;

Envy and Greed thier kids? Maybe or perhaps a relative of thiers? (like one was a relative and the other a kid?)
I know Envy's said that he doesn't remember or know what his old body was like (hence the free transformation) so that could be implying something. o_o
-rosa_aquafire on August 26th, 2004 12:04 pm (UTC)
I figure Envy is going to be a familiar face. The fact that he doesn`t remember his real body implies a cop out for 'We can`t show him yet!!" I also figure, for SURE, that Envy was Hohenheim`s Human transmutation, which I`m sure he`s done. We KNOW that Greed was Dante`s. We also know that Greed and Envy are the oldest homunculus, and we also ALSO know that Dante and Hohenheim are very old. Dante IS in love with Hohenheim, it`s been confirmed, so ...

I figure that Dante and Hohenheim had a thing in the past, their children died, they researched HT together, did it, found out that OUCH, it sucks, Hohenheim was swallowed in guilt and abandonned his research, but Dante was fascinated, and formed the Homunculous.
the greatest comeback since Lazarus: people cannot gain anythingderogatory on August 27th, 2004 11:52 am (UTC)
Should Greed and Envy be related, that explains their animosity- sibling rivalry! Though the conflict between those affected by the sin of greed and those affected by envy is what i thought they were implying, but this works just as well! :x
Poison Envywinter_ruins on August 26th, 2004 06:48 pm (UTC)
XD Not saying that she didn't say that. ^^; They probably did. =3 Wouldn't be surprised. But they didn't get married (because he said that he'd only ever been married to Tricia), and I think he thought he loved her, but didn't really? *Shrugs* I'm strange that way. =3 I'm a romanitc at heart.

I wouldn't be surprised about that either. XP I hope not, being a rabid Envy X Ed shipper and all. Not that I'm against incest or anything... but... still...
-rosa_aquafire on August 26th, 2004 06:50 pm (UTC)
Does it still count as incest though? I mean, it`s a constructed body, and it`s been a FREAKING LONG TIME. Hmmmm...
ジェニイ 「Jenny」: Ed and Winry [ushitora_icons]kirchu on August 26th, 2004 11:43 am (UTC)
Me don't like dubbed anime at all. In fact, I hate it with a passion. Rofl, why me so OMG, DIE. ?! Well, they ruined one of me faves: Cardcaptor Sakura. I know it's not Funi liscensed, but America ruined it!

Anywho...lol. Yeah, me like Paku Romi. She's so awesome! Did you see the part that Ed smells the food and says he's hungry? That part is awesome! I love it. XD

I realized I didn't cry at the episode...even though I know it's so sad and all. :\ Probably because I was laughing so hard at something else. :x But I'll watch it again and you'll see me in tears big time.

Maybe Al wants to get back to his normal self too, but it's scaring me if he does, he'll be gone or something. I don't know. x_x; I'm just scared... o_O;

I really think that Dante is going to use Rose's body, hence "my dresses won't fit you if you don't eat up". It's like she wants to be in Rose's body later, which it may and it's scary! O_o; But interesting, I guess. Much better than the thought I have about Al. I guess it's because I like Al better, rofl. :x *hides*

Anyway, yeah. Ed knows what he's doing. I wonder where does Gluttony and Pride fit in...lol.

Um, I would see how the dubbed FMA goes anyway. I know I always do. I always see anime subbed and dubbed. Then scream at dubbed's awfulness. o_o; Wow, I'm so nice.
Running Amok at an Eateryraane on August 26th, 2004 11:53 am (UTC)
I believe Nelvana, the company who did Cardcaptors, was Canadian.
reversing the polarity of the neutron flow: *loads gun* Die Envy DIE!shinraisei on August 26th, 2004 12:07 pm (UTC)
For YTV, they're picking up Witch Hunter Robin, apparently Gundam SEED and .hack//SIGN and they usually pick up anime depending on its success south of the border. So, chances are, we might get FMA here just not at the same time as CN. (*remembers the Digimon days with YTV vs. Fox Kids*...you never know, maybe 5 episode would've aired on CN and then BAM YTV makes crazy 'we're on crack' commercials for FMA =D)
farting in a formal manner: [ed] protected //uniconsneko_erin on August 26th, 2004 11:58 am (UTC)
I've gotten used to Paku Romi doing Edward's voice. Its like second nature to listen to Ed scream "IM NOT A SHRIMP"... Im not going to be used to the Americanized version of Full Metal Alchemist when it comes on Cartoon Network...

I completely agree. Paku Romi is the first voice actress I've ever really took notice of. I never really cared about the voices until I heard Paku Romi as Ed. I was like, "OMG Talent!!" XD She really is an amazing voice actress and will always be the one true Ed.
Aya: shikari narou!//by teruteruboozukawaiiaya on August 26th, 2004 07:06 pm (UTC)

But why is Alphonse going to Shou Tucker?

well since Al has the stone maybe he wants to use it to help him and Ed to return to normal. Ed is constantly telling him not to use it for they don't know what would happen if he did use alchemy. You never know what could happen if he does use alchemy since it causes a great reaction.

Dante is using Rose since she explained about using a lot of body's to affix her soul into a lot of them. Rose will be the next one once Layla's body decays. Rose seems to be used a lot and she's probably at a point where nothing matters.

I guess my favorite fangirl moment of the episode when Ed dyed his hair black. XD I thought it was intresting that he did that.

well when the anime ends.. it ends i guess and we move on but we will still have Hagaren in our hearts :D

There's always the manga and that movie to fall back on. When Funi releases the DVD's you can watch them all over again :D
bloody mary on the rocks: Military Truthjunemermaid on August 27th, 2004 01:32 am (UTC)
Im not sure why Al's going to Tucker, but since they told him he was crying on the phone, I could easily see Al going for the intent purpose of fixing Nina, even before he thought about fixing himself or his brother.
Al seems like the kind of genuine person who would still be torn up inside over Nina so it would make sense to me she'd be the first thing on his mind if he heard from Tucker.