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09 August 2004 @ 09:58 pm
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So, what's going to happen is.. well, most of it I agree with adoramouse. They will use the stone to retrieve Al's body, since it is behind the gate. Hohenheim also stated that they cannot just recreate his body, he said along the lines of 'you can transfer your soul into another body', so they will transfer Al's body into his lost one. Either that, or he will be transfered into Ed'd body. That is a huge possability.
It seems thet both Dante and Hohenheim are old rivals/master and commander(excuse the pun..XD). Both transfer bodies as their old ones rot and die, though I'm not sure why they age so quickly (hence Dante's already dying body of Lyla). Still, both of them must be millions of years old -here's going back to actual human history, stating that Hohenheim lives wayyy back in the ages. For him to be in '10, is absolutely perposterous, except for the evidence.
I'm releived they finally explained why homonculi know alchemy and that they need human lives -red stone-to live. I was sure about it, but I didn't know they needed it tor egain human form. Ironic -human lives make you a human.. at least in physical form. To become fully human, you need the actuall philosopher's stone itself. This makes me wonder if Sloth will be the last to remain, hence why the homunculi never get the stone? Who knows, at this point. Basically the plot can go anywhere.

I mean, they made Theophrastus Bombastus Von Hohenheim (Paracelus) a GOOD guy??! (evidence in ep 44, unless it changes in 45) and made Dante-san the one who controls the homunculi. Erk. So we are completely so far from the manga, you'd need a spaceship to get back Sort of a bummer IMO. But it's cute how he told Dante to stay away from his sons. ;O aww... I like Hohenheim, for now. Until he (possibly) turns bad, of course. I mean, hisory says Hohenheim claimed he created the first homunculi.. so that still points out his arrogance and connection with the creatures. I think I'll need to read up more.

Opinions, anyone? I'd like to get a discussion started while it's fresh!
 
 
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reversing the polarity of the neutron flow: *loads gun* Die Envy DIE!shinraisei on August 9th, 2004 06:41 pm (UTC)
alrighty (some of the stuff here has been re-written from previous ep 44 topics)

Seriously, I'm having a hard time keeping Hohenheim as the badass evil mysterious dude...(instead at the moment he's the kickass mysterious gooduy dude o.o) There might be something that would happen to turn Hohenheim into a bad person or that we learn that he created either Gluttony, Envy or Pride. *jumps into spaceship and re-reads her mangas*

They will use the stone to retrieve Al's body, since it is behind the gate. Hohenheim also stated that they cannot just recreate his body, he said along the lines of 'you can transfer your soul into another body', so they will transfer Al's body into his lost one. Either that, or he will be transfered into Ed'd body. That is a huge possability.

I like that Al's soul will be transfered into Ed's body theory, its pretty plausible at the moment. At the moment Al's body is behind the gate we know that much...a strange thought to consider: Wrath was an entity behind the door too and the only way he was able to emerge was gaining Ed's limbs...so your Al-in-Ed theory seems to fit here (Return to the gate, give the body to bodiless-Al-beind-The-Door, Al inside Ed comes out of the door back into the world.). It would be wierd wouldn't it? o_o; (And the movie deals with them coping...hahaha...that'd be a comedy and they'd need a strong story line to keep the audience from laughing XD)

I noticed something...

Take some time to watch the OP and pay attention to the surroundings when the chorus (Kesshite, reraito shite!) begins...

Now fast-forward to where Dante-Lyra (Or Dantyla as lelledorin so eloquently puts it XD) takes Rose into the church, down the steps, and into a huge open space with a BIG waterfall and some statues and stuff. See any similarities?

So far, this part of the series has the only OP and ED that pertain to what has/will occur(ed) in the story (thus far). The others didn't have much but maybe its just me o.o.(The OP showing where Dante took Rose; The ED showing those who have died etc. etc.)

Also, who wasn't in tears when Ed was digging up his mother's grave? I was litteraly in tears while Ed was digging up his mother's grave. I've actually lost someone that close so I was staring at the episode going "Ed...what the heck are you doing?...". Definatly the most moving part of the episode IMO. (It made me hate Ed for a bit overnight, but I guess thinking that its for them to gain an edge over Sloth somewhat cooled those feelings ^^;;.)

Its good to know that Ed and Al finally know what happened to Hughes. An Ed-a-la-postal and a shocked Al were the exact reactions I was expecting.

Next Episode (45): Hmm... Roy is going to confront the Fuhrer for sure I'm hoping for just a heated armguement followed by the possibilty of demotion and not a Roy v Fuhrer King Bradley battle. With or without his other 4 swords The Fuhrer can litteraly own anyone (If you don't know what I'm talking about, read chapter 29.). Not only that but an attack on the leader would sent Roy directly to court and turn the military against him too. Not something we need to see and to have something like a demotion happen to a man who's quest is to become the Fuhrer would be devastating for Roy.
Aly: Hughes/chibi x [me]mother on August 9th, 2004 07:23 pm (UTC)
Can you tell me about the movie? o_O I couldn't download the fugging trailer, cuz my Quicktime is being a bitch. That, or send me it?
But yes, anothr 7 eps, most of which will probably take place in the ares shown in the op and ed, like you said.
I REALLY don't want Roy to lose his job.. I mean if Fuhrer can be killed, Roy will hopefully be premoted. *cringe* I hope.
And about Hughes.. *whine* they finally found out, and it broke me in two.

*sigh* I don't want it to end. I'll have to resort to seein Yu-Gi-Oh the Movie.. @_@;;;; eck.
reversing the polarity of the neutron flow: *loads gun* Die Envy DIE!shinraisei on August 9th, 2004 07:30 pm (UTC)
The trailer doesn't have much. Just Roy receiting the Equivalent Trade Speech, Melissa playing in the background and some flashes of scenes from the begining of the series. A real teaser. XD

I'm assuming you have to be a General in Central to be promoted to Fuhrer or maybe not because General Hakuro was tempoarily promoted to Fuhrer and he works in the East. (Hakuro is Fuhrer, he fails and General Mustang is Fuhrer? That'd be cool. Roy 10 million; Hakuro 0 =D)

I've decided that I'll see the YGO movie for kicks and to see how a US-Japan co-production works out that and I want the cards XDD.
Aly: Hughes/memories x [me]mother on August 10th, 2004 06:07 pm (UTC)
gee XDDD theyre tryign to kill us with kindness? *cough*

hakuro isn't Fuhrer really, just as a temp job. I dunno, I hope all of them die.. ARG!

I don't mind YGO, but they probably killed it in the dub.
Le prince des ténèbrescfirefly on August 9th, 2004 10:04 pm (UTC)
Ed digging up the grave brought tears to my eyes too... but at the same time I was giggling maniacally out of shock... O.O;;;

I get weird reactions to these sorts of things.
Aly: Champloo/upsidown memory x [me]mother on August 10th, 2004 06:10 pm (UTC)
...giggling? o_O;
goat_sangoat_san on August 10th, 2004 12:44 am (UTC)
Hohenheim said that if al returns what he gained from the human transmutation, that he could get his body back, which is plausible since ed now has the weapon to defeat sloth.

i'm also glad/sad to see that al and ed now know about hughes, and i also thought it was cool when hohenheim made those ice al's.

sorry for the late post, but i had to wait for it to be subbed
Aly: Havoc/techno assassin x [me]mother on August 10th, 2004 06:12 pm (UTC)
that's ok ^^

but yes, that's true. But can they bring themselves to kill their mother? That's the problem.
I'm also happy they know about Hughes. I'm glad they cared about him as much as I thoguht they did *sniff* ;;
and I think Hohen. loves Ed and Al to an extent, and is proud of them and their genes.
goat_sangoat_san on August 10th, 2004 06:50 pm (UTC)
i'm not sure, i think ed has the determination enough to do it, i think i remember him saying "thats not our mom" or something like that
Alymother on August 10th, 2004 07:32 pm (UTC)
perhaps -ed is full of surprises! :O
summerwolf on August 10th, 2004 06:12 am (UTC)
Am I weird for having a line of thought that says...."OMG Ed is a product of Dead Sperm!" ?

I mean, Hohenheim was using perfume to cover the scent even before he went away....
filling spatial gaps with prime value: by iconthesis - the hard wayamai_unmei on August 10th, 2004 12:17 pm (UTC)
You know, I think that's one of the aspects of the Mountain of Angst that is going to come crashing down on Al and Ed as the series concludes. How do you come to grips with the fact that you're the offspring of ... something very old? Older than the average human?

Ed will not be pleased. :p

The episode seemed to suggest that Hohenheim also takes other bodies from time to time, so I don't know that one can necessarily call him a "good guy". Unless he's building the bodies from scratch, he's stealing other people's lives like Dante.

And why did no one ask why Hohenheim knew so much about homunculi and the Gate and the Philosopher's Stone?
Alymother on August 10th, 2004 06:12 pm (UTC)
A bit, yes XD but it also makes a whole bunch of sense.
Ansem, seeker of the cockpowercorrupts on August 10th, 2004 12:34 pm (UTC)
What I find interesting though, about them bringing Al's body back from the gate - why did Hohenheim say is the reason Homonculus cannot use alchemy? Because they come from beyond the gate.
>=D

I don't know about the body stealing with Hohenheim - I'm not sure he's good, but if he's protecting his sons, then no matter what he won't be completely an antagonist, what with them being our heroes and everything. ^^ And the ending, with Ed digging up his mother's body... fascinating, that. So he must have fully accepted that Sloth is indeed her, and that he will need to kill her - hence the paralysis that comes when a homunculus is confronted with a piece of their old bodies. This should be very interesting, come the next episode!
Aly: MGS3/big boss x [me]mother on August 10th, 2004 06:15 pm (UTC)
that he will need to kill her - hence the paralysis that comes when a homunculus is confronted with a piece of their old bodies.

I love you. you're brilliant. you just made me realize that he dug up a piece of her bones or some part of her to kill her with. Only 6 eps left! One I think is an hr special.