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08 August 2004 @ 11:17 pm
About Ed's Father.  
I really don't know if it's me, but I was watching episode 16, "Lost Thing," and I suddenly came up with a possibly irrational yet potential conclusion.



You know that father sans a leg that was the reason that the little girl jumped Ed and took his auto-mail leg? Ever wonder how his likeness to the Hohenheim revealed in episode 43 is striking? As if the other father was Hohenheim, but aged?

Maybe the father that showed up at Rizenbul wasn't the father, but something else. Obviously not a homunculus, because they cannot use alchemy. Yet, Hohenheim claps his hands and uses it without a problem. But the other homunculi knew him, as well as Lyra/Dante. How? Is he really human? Or is the other father sans leg Eds real father (and I guess it pretty much goes together, since the Hohenheim at Rizenbul has an obvious lack of sense of time, and he looks as if he never aged), and he lost his memory, which is why he clings to his grandchildren, which means after the war, something happened and he lost his memories as well as his leg, so he builds a new family. Odd, because there is no evidence that he was ever married. Then how is this other father created? He isn't human, that's for sure.

Just that last look in the episode gave me vibes. Is this bizarre, or what?
 
 
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filling spatial gaps with prime value: by iconthesis - the hard wayamai_unmei on August 8th, 2004 09:28 pm (UTC)
OK, here's my theory ...

Envy and Greed were created over 130 years before, so it stands to reason that Dante is at least 130 years old. Also, Hohenheim has given hints that he, too, is over 100 years old. Since he knows Dante and the Sins, I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that Hohenheim has been around for the same amount of time.

Obviously, something happened approximately 130 years before and it probably involved both Dante and Hohenheim. I think both created the Philosopher's Stone 130 years before and may have used its powers to extend their life spans.

BUT, it's indeed obvious that Dante and Hohenheim are human. Both are apparently decaying, a hint that the two are indeed not immortal. (The Sins, interestingly enough, do not decay like Hohenheim and Dante because they are clearly not human.)

Legends are full of alchemists who sold their souls for greater power and did everything in their power to avoid death. Dante, apparently, steals young girls' bodies after the decay goes too far (I think that's why she is holding Rose). It's unclear what Hohenheim does to stick around and look so young, but I'm sure it's something pretty angsty (it wouldn't be FMA otherwise).
Courtney: fuhrerpixelspaniel on August 8th, 2004 10:00 pm (UTC)
A small part of me is wholly convinced that even though Hohenheim is an immortal, yet by what Dante did to Lyra, he somehow duplicated himself (yeh, crazy), or affixed his soul into some type of dummy, that is only active when the Philosopher's Stone is created. I found it as good timing that he appeared as soon as the PS was created.

But dunno...I don't really get what both of their motivation besides living and accumulating power is. Why did he leave his family for such a long time, and why does he come back now, especially when the PS is created? To stop Lyra, possibly (and I think that's why she's holding Rose, too).
filling spatial gaps with prime value: by yuzu_chan - smile or get hurtamai_unmei on August 8th, 2004 10:22 pm (UTC)
Dante seems to suggest that Hohenheim has not been switching bodies ... unlike Dante herself. (That opens up the question as to whether Hohenheim is capable of the same kind of stunt.) He could have duplicated himself, maybe ... anything is possible at this point!

Yeah, Daddy!Elric's reappearance right after the PS was created can't be a coincidence! But theories fail me at this point. FMA is truly striking out on its own at this point!

Can't wait for the sub to come out ... *goes into a corner and rocks while waiting for the sub*
Courtney: suicide! Wooo!pixelspaniel on August 8th, 2004 10:54 pm (UTC)
Understood. :( Ever since I watched episode 34, I thought I knew where they were going, but I don't exactly know what they're trying to do with Dad Elric. Eh...might as well. *loooooooong sigh*
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summerwolf on August 9th, 2004 12:25 am (UTC)
Errr.....manga Sloth isn't a she.
reversing the polarity of the neutron flow: *loads gun* Die Envy DIE!shinraisei on August 9th, 2004 01:41 am (UTC)
....Sloth's a he. ^^;

He hasn't been formally introduced but a staticked sillouette definately confirms that manga Sloth is a he who's very big and tall and looks the part.XD
Courtney: elricestpixelspaniel on August 9th, 2004 01:45 pm (UTC)
I DL' them through my P2P progs, mainly. Sometimes, I get them through special trade.

But the way you put it, it's interesting. I never saw it that Homunculi could age, let alone have families of their own. In that case, I'll definitely read up on my manga, then!

reversing the polarity of the neutron flow: *loads gun* Die Envy DIE!shinraisei on August 9th, 2004 01:41 am (UTC)
He perhaps left in order to fix his decaying body? Just a thought you never know with this series what's about to happen next. o_o;
Courtney: bjorkpixelspaniel on August 9th, 2004 01:46 pm (UTC)
God, isn't that the truth! XD