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06 August 2004 @ 03:36 am
This is all LIES, I tell you!  
Yo. Yea, I don't post much. But I come out of the lurky shadows because of some random thoughts/theories/brain sppewage my friends and I just popped out of our heads (as a result of watching eps 35-43 again, because they hadn't seen them). Most of them were contemplated while attempting to verify that the person in the ending is who we thought he was :D;

Oh yea. I think I should mention this is all coming from our anime knowledge, as we only have up to chapter 26 of the manga :D;;

Hohenhime has to do with the Homonculus (smack me now, yes. I know this was probably stated somehwere.) We're actually starting to think he might be a homonculus, going by random little quotes and things. He told Winry and Sciesca something that Ross commented on being from a 100 years ago.. which could actually be some random fact spewage, but in our bizarre minds we recalled that Homonculus don't age. So if he is one, he could have been there. Though I have no idea if Homonculus can reproduce or not, seeing as they're not actually human. So the possibilities running through our head are that 1. Hohenhime is a Homunculus. 2. Hohenhime is at least connected to them in a big way (which I think could be that he made Envy, after reading a few of the older posts). 3. Hohenhime is "Father" and "Him" (but we are scared of that one :D;.) Whatever it is, he's important because of what Envy told Ed in the 5th Laboratory. Which could be applied to any of those things (though probably mroe the 2nd thatn anything else)

Another thing taht just amde us generally depressed was the fact that Ed still doesn't know Hughes is dead, and he's fighting Hughes in the closing. Double angsty bonus. Though we had nothing big to say on that beyond the point that it was severely angsty.

Carrie and I were both completely stunned when the Fuhrer was a homunculus. We had both sworn it was Envy changed into him. The thing that has me completely crazy about that is that little scene after Hughes!Envy is just plain Envy, with all the other Homunculus (homunculi? XD). Everybody is there, looking menacing as usual... except for Greed (obviously) and the Fuhrer. Where the poo is the Fuhrer at? Is there something coming up soon that kills him off? You know waht my insane little mind is thinking? Despite the fact taht i'm obviously wrong, my mind is screaming taht Pride is not Pride. Pride is Envy. Pride isn't in the picture, even though Lust is, and she's hanging on some train wall or something. So my mind just keeps going on and on 'It's Envy! ENVYENVYENVY!'. ....Only because we haven't seen Envy in ages. At all. Only heard from him on the phone. Though I have no idea why he would be masquerading as Pride...But back in episode 35, he was talking about Sloth taking care of Wrath. No mention of Pride at all, even though he would be right there.

Aaahh.... But i'm still obviously wrong. Oh well? My mind can make up lots of fake pretty stories in my head, right?

Holy crap. I don't think any of that made ANY sense. ...Yea. That was us making up a bunch of stuff at 3 AM with little real information to go on. At least it sounded interesting in our heads! (Also, apologies if any of this was said before. Silly us :D;.)
Current Mood: contemplativecontemplative
Current Music: Episode 35... ha :D
Poison Envy: Fandom has Envy [gift from rosa_aquafirewinter_ruins on August 6th, 2004 12:43 am (UTC)
Unless the Hohenhime is a homoculius, he couldn't have made Envy. Envy sealed or help sealed Greed off 130 years ago (so stated in the anime. Manga is obviously different).

I'm near positive that the Fuhrer is in fact Pride, just because of how Sloth acted around him.

And, if I'm not mistaken, I think it was Sloth hanging from the train wall. I could be way off, but I'm certain that's who it is...
Poison Envywinter_ruins on August 6th, 2004 12:45 am (UTC)
I was mistaken. Look at that XP
Bretoyashleesketchyheart on August 6th, 2004 12:51 am (UTC)

Hehehe. Yeah, i'm pretty sure the Fuhrer is Pride. I think i'm creating plot twists in my mind just show the show can give some more heart attacks before it ends :D ("HOLY CRAP he WAS Pride! NEVER SAW THAT COMING ...yesIdidshutup")

But woo. Being not in the know lets you come up with crazy stuff like that! ...Or something.
Poison Envywinter_ruins on August 6th, 2004 12:55 am (UTC)

Bretoyashleesketchyheart on August 6th, 2004 01:42 am (UTC)

Or the one my friend came up with:
"Oh no! Roy touched Philospher'sStoneAl! OHMYGOD HUGHES IS ALIVE AGAIN. Roy'ssecretdesireshavebroughthimbackohohohoho."
Poison Envy: I'll be okaywinter_ruins on August 6th, 2004 01:43 am (UTC)
OMG!! Yes. =3

**Continuing the train of thought: "Butwhyisn'thewearingclothes?"
i am a jedi, like my father before me: twistertatooine on August 6th, 2004 08:52 am (UTC)
(Well, you know what Roy's secret desire really is...)
Bretoyashleesketchyheart on August 6th, 2004 10:53 am (UTC)
"...OMG a bed popped out too! Ithinkthiswasmeantobefateholywow!"
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Bretoyashleesketchyheart on August 6th, 2004 10:53 am (UTC)
It was eps 41-42-ish. He got his arm blown up by Kimbly again, then he killed Kimbly and transfered his arm into Al (meaning ANGST). I think it was after this he got shot a bunch while trying to save Lust (idiotic body instincts. Blast them all). Then the military came and Al went splodie and everybody went poof. ..Yea. Bad recap from me :D;
should win the nobel prize for evil: sinharvestnayami on August 6th, 2004 08:25 am (UTC)
This is an interesting theory, which I want to support just because I think it's so silly that the Fuhrer is Pride. But then again, Envy's symbol is on his leg and Pride's is on his eye. I am wondering why Envy hasn't shown up lately. Does he think he can run around on his own? He knows what happened to Greed.
linwen: Lust Elegance - maho_kiwilinwen on August 6th, 2004 10:54 am (UTC)
Envy -has- shown up lately. If you remember, Envy showed up right when the Fuhrer and Juliette Sloth Douglass were leaving to go to Lior. Therefore, Pride (and I did see this coming) is the Fuhrer and Envy is Envy.
Bretoyashleesketchyheart on August 6th, 2004 10:58 am (UTC)
...Well crap. I forgot about that. Oh well ^^
Bretoyashleesketchyheart on August 6th, 2004 10:56 am (UTC)
Haha. The excuse I made up for the eye thing is that Envy made it to confuse the world XD;
i am a jedi, like my father before me: fyetatooine on August 6th, 2004 08:51 am (UTC)
I agree with the Hoenheim-as-"Father" thing. First off, he looks a bit like what we see of Father in the manga (which, admittedly, wanders off from the anime a lot, but...). Secondly, it creates nice circularity -- it ties the protagonists (Ed and Al) directly with the primary antagonist (the director of the homonculus). Plus, Hoenheim had a bunch of research on human transmutation, didn't he? And why else would he show up now if not to be revealed as the archvillain?
reversing the polarity of the neutron flow: *loads gun* Die Envy DIE!shinraisei on August 6th, 2004 12:37 pm (UTC)
Actually there is one Homonculus whom we know can age and has a wife and kid and that is the Fuhrer (Pride in the anime, Wrath in the manga). He told Greed (before he was going to turn on his sword-slice-chopping-madness on him) that he was 60 years old. (I haven't read any scanlations but what I understood of the small talk was "Do you know how old I am?" Greed: "Huh?" "blahablahblah I'm 60 years old blahblah something about being really fit for his age blah". I'm so good. XD)

Another thing taht just amde us generally depressed was the fact that Ed still doesn't know Hughes is dead, and he's fighting Hughes in the closing. Double angsty bonus. Though we had nothing big to say on that beyond the point that it was severely angsty.
That's what I remember talking about regarding the ending that to mess with Ed and Al's minds in the anime, Envy would come out of nowhere as Hughes when Roy and co., who know he's dead, aren't around.

He can't do it in the manga to the same effect since Ed, Al and Winry all found out in a very not-how-they-should've-way. (He could do like a "Just to mess with your minds, 'Hughes didn't die. He went to the top of the Eifel Tower and is camping out there'. Hahaha" ) And from then on, since after Ed and Al found out, Ed wanted to tell Winry personally but she found out the same way they did and went off to see Glacia Hughes he's all "Damn it I suck...[angstangst]" and is pretty much putting himself down for the rest of the chapter. =_=;
Bretoyashleesketchyheart on August 6th, 2004 10:33 pm (UTC)
Oioi. I'm going to have to go on a rampage and look for the manga now. Feeling so out of the loop.

*cringes at her horridly bad typing* I'll never write another thing at 3 in the morning. >_
Mooshrooms!sumiya on August 6th, 2004 05:26 pm (UTC)
What got me, is that he knew that there wasn't a road in Rizenbul a hundred years ago. So that got me thinking.