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31 July 2004 @ 10:31 pm
the dub  
So, just came back from Otakon.
Saw the first dub episode before the concert.

Ed's voice is meh. Not great, not horrible. Tolerable, I guess. Will take a lot of getting used to. My mom thought he sounded too 'Americanized,' and I'd agree, except from what I've heard of Vic's work in Kino's Journey, I'd already been anticipating the rasp. He wasn't very convincing as a little kid, but at least he could scream good. And Ed still has a foul mouth (I clearly remember him saying "bastard" at LEAST two times).
The prologue has Ed narrating instead of Alphonse. All I have to say is...why?
Quite a few dialogue changes. Nothing that changes the plot drastically, but it still annoyed me.
Rose sucks. What kind of scream was that? She sounds too old, and barely shows any emotion for someone who's having her beliefs ripped apart.
I found no problems with Cornello.
I think Al's voice is my favorite so far. I was pleasantly surprised at how close it sounded to the original. They even have the echo effect. However, he didn't speak with much emotion, and maybe it was just because of the noise in the arena, but I often couldn't hear what he said. It sounded more like a 'mumble mumble' instead. Oh, and he calls Ed "Ed" instead of "Brother." Kinda makes me sad. :(
Lust was alright. I can't make much of a judgment since she had so few lines, but I think she has the seductress part down.
They called the array a "transmutation circle." :)
All in all, I was a bit disappointed, but the first episodes are always the worst. I'm sure the acting will improve with time (hopefully this goes for the dialogue changes as well, because those were just painful ><).

Btw, if anyone remembers me from the photoshoot, I was the Izumi with the "Easy Cooking" book. ^_^
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Current Music: "Spirit dreams inside" by L'arc-en-Ciel
Absinthe and cyanidetarnishedestiny on July 31st, 2004 07:56 pm (UTC)
The prologue has Ed narrating instead of Alphonse.

I hope I'm not the only one terribly dissapointed they did that. ._. That's just wrong.

I can already tell when I buy the DVDs, that I'll only watch it in Japanese, just like almost every other DVD I own. -.-
Kristenneo_queen157 on July 31st, 2004 09:50 pm (UTC)
The prologue has Ed narrating instead of Alphonse.

I hope I'm not the only one terribly dissapointed they did that. ._. That's just wrong.

I think I may even be more disappointed than you over that, actually. :(
Elihice: hi alelihice on July 31st, 2004 08:00 pm (UTC)
Well, it doesn't sound so bad... even if I always like the original japanese voices better. What I would really like to hear is Roy's voice.
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Kristenneo_queen157 on July 31st, 2004 09:53 pm (UTC)
I agree with Al calling Ed brother. It would sound really weird in over here. o.O
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Aya Brea (Joyce)ekkusu_no_aya on July 31st, 2004 08:07 pm (UTC)
AHHHH?! Ed narrates the beginning part? But I thought the whole point was that Al was retelling the story in the flashbacks (to Rose) and that's why he narrates the opening *_* Is this different or the same as the one on the Funimation site? Cuz if THAT voice was Ed. O_o... dang.

As for the "Brother" vs "Ed" part, it doesn't sound nearly as natrual in English to go around calling your brother "Brother" like it's their name. Though calling him "Ni-san" would be cute (but noooo, the American audence would get that confused with a car. *wink wink* XD)
reversing the polarity of the neutron flow: *loads gun* Die Envy DIE!shinraisei on July 31st, 2004 10:21 pm (UTC)

Don't give me any ideas on what to call my older brother I already call him some crazy shortened form of his real name already! XDDD.

I agree though. In most countries these days you calls your siblings by name and not title and only call them by title when refering to them. Although, I think it would'be cuter to hear "Brother" in some situations where it can be deemed reasonable. =3
tell them storiesdjcati on July 31st, 2004 08:07 pm (UTC)
The prologue has Ed narrating instead of Alphonse. All I have to say is...why?

I echo your sentiments.
That's just... wtf? Why What's the point? 0.o;

oh well. I'll watch when it's out, but probably not loyally... subs > dub...
i am a jedi, like my father before me: hamiltontatooine on July 31st, 2004 08:56 pm (UTC)
Heh, I'd probably watch it loyally, but I'm a loser and can never manage to stay up late enough for the good stuff on Adult Swim. >_<;;
linwen: Ed kakoii - sumiyalinwen on July 31st, 2004 08:14 pm (UTC)
I didn't come in until the end of the episode they were showing, and I have to say...I wasn't impressed with what I heard. It sounded like what's-his-face that's playing Ed was trying to impersonate Romi, and came off badly. His inflection left a lot to be desired, and don't get me started on the Priest or Rose.

I also was kind of shocked when the video they were playing to Ready Steady Go was incredibly spoilerific o.o Although, that was the best song in the entire concert, I had a great time at it!! <3
Cynthiacsakuras on July 31st, 2004 08:48 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I mean Scar, and Nina, and Ed spasming in the 5th laboratory...I feel kind of bad because I kept gaping at the screens going "OMG spoilers!" when I should have been paying attention to the band, especially since I had been looking forward to them playing Ready Steady GO.
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tunetherainbow on July 31st, 2004 08:24 pm (UTC)
I'd heard Ed's voice through the Broken Angel demo that was available at E3, and was somewhat disappointed. I'd been hoping that Vic had further settled into the role, but judging from your review, it seems not much has changed. Vic's not necessarily a bad actor, or even a victim of bad casting, it's just a different vocal interpretation of Ed. Whether this version will win me over is yet to be seen. (I have an infinite amount of love for Paku Romi's screechy and oh-so-lovable Ed, so I had high/narrow expectations for his VA. *Guilty*)
I greatly loved Al's voice as well. His VA is my favorite by far, and is more or less perfect to my ears--excellently cast and excellently delivered. I was sort of lukewarm towards Armstrong, though... something about that performance seemed off.

I've always thought of Ed as been foul-mouthed for some reason, and somewhat anticipated the "brother" change(It just doesn't have quite the same ring in English as in Japanese, admittedly. XD), but the dialogue changes are disappointing indeed. Were they just strange changes along the lines of that Al-to-Ed narration switch--without any apparent reason, that is?

*Insert sadness about not being able to make it to Otakon*
And I know this is rather OT, but... how was the concert, anyway? ^_^;
linwen: Envy squeee - madpusslinwen on July 31st, 2004 08:29 pm (UTC)
The concert itself was grand! I've never been to anything so exciting in my life, and I know just about everybody else was having a great time too ^.^ There were cheers going on after the concert had ended! Tetsu threw bananas, Hyde threw water, and Ken threw guitar picks (I think). I got a picture of my boyfriend and one of the people that caught a banana, she's this cute Japanese girl --> Banana!

Lust sat an isle or so away from me, and her costume was soooo good ;_; She sat next to a really good cosplay Ed ^.^
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Vichamst3rhamham on July 31st, 2004 08:34 pm (UTC)
Aw man I really wish I could have went.

Did Ed have an accent? Just curious.
Cynthiacsakuras on July 31st, 2004 08:41 pm (UTC)
Nope, no accents at all.
Personally, I'm relieved.
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ジェニイ 「Jenny」kirchu on July 31st, 2004 08:39 pm (UTC)
*is sad* Then again, I never really liked dubbed anime. I strongly dislike dubbed anime. ._.; *sigh* You know, maybe Al's voice is the best because he had this kiddy voice like the original. Oh well. I guess I just feel sad because it's dubbed. XD American always seem to ruin the best anime. And I don't think I would watch FMA dubbed either. :x *still think she would anyway to see how it's like*
breakin' through the door: Sinfulmiss_arel on July 31st, 2004 09:40 pm (UTC)
I can't get over the idea that Ed = Kurz Weber . . .

It's too bad they're having Edward narrate the intro instead of Al; let's hope they at least keep Al doing the Touka Koukan speech at the beginning of every ep from 3 on.

Damsels in distress are rarely dubbed well. Sad but true.

'Ed' is better than 'Brother', in English, anyway. Some things don't cross language barriers very well. (And if they'd gone with 'Big Brother' . . . *shudders* I'd be unable to pay attention because of all the Nanami flashbacks.)

That's good that they kept it. Makes sense; it's easier o fit 'transmuataion circle' to the lipflap than 'array' when the japanese word is 'renseiji'.

Sounds like it coulda been a lot worse. I guess I'll have to see for myself eventually. Thanks for the report!
Either love me or leave me alonesyphonboa on July 31st, 2004 10:11 pm (UTC)
I thought the dub was pretty on target. Im happy to say, IT COULD HAVE BEEN MUCH MUCH WORSE!! Nothing too different really got changed around. You're lucky it didn't get the whole Tokyo Mew Mew treatment.

Ed's voice could use a little more work, but its very good so far.

The speech in the beginning was a little weird with Ed narrating, didn't really notice it detracting anything too badly.

Al = BEST VOICE out of the set!! Id have to say i was shocked at how well Alphonse was. I expected to get another 30 year old doing a little child voice.

Winry's voice is ok, she didnt say too much to really tell.

Grandma Pinako's voice is good.

Cornello was good.

Rose sucked, voice was WAYYYYYY too deep.

Lust = Saffron Henderson?! NOIN AGAIN?!? >_>

Gluttony = Too deep, not shrieky enough

As for the brother thing, I think they could have put it in, i call my brother as Brother ALL the time, and not in a ghetto way "yo bro"

I guess it sucks that theres no english polite way to say "older brother".

I am VERY happy that all the references to god, etc were intact. I expected a lot those things to be cut out. We'll see what happens when it gets into the Adult swim....

レテル: bleach wtf + arex_kunlethael on August 1st, 2004 09:30 am (UTC)
Nononono, waitaminute. Lust's American voice actress is the one who played Noin in Gundam Wing? Say it ain't so!
that song;than on July 31st, 2004 10:18 pm (UTC)
I also thought Al's voice was meh. Hoepfully it will get better. I was dressed as Izumi at the photoshoot, too!
Cynthiacsakuras on August 1st, 2004 12:11 am (UTC)
Were you one of the Izumi's beating up Ed? ^_^ I was way at the edge...wonder if anyone even noticed me? o.o

(omg are they really going to publish those pictures now that I think about it that's kinda scary)
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hork13bajir5 on July 31st, 2004 11:44 pm (UTC)
I don't see how you can like dub Cornello... He's supossed to sound all nice, and deep, and fatherly that slowly turns into a FREAKIN' BASTARD. Not some British d00d. When he said "philosopher's Stone," I was thinking about all the n00b HP fans going "OMWTDLOLZ THEY STOLEZ FROM HP!1!1!!1!" >>;;
Cynthia: Edwardcsakuras on August 1st, 2004 12:06 am (UTC)
I didn't mind Cornello. Really. In fact, I don't even remember him much. Dunno if that's a good or bad thing.
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Colleen: Communitywater_alchemist on August 1st, 2004 05:16 am (UTC)
I'm so insanely jealous of you guys. I live on the other side of the country so I couldn't go... *cries* Plus I can't spend the money for it. I want to see all of your pictures!!!!!
Mike: Hughesfinnell1912 on August 1st, 2004 10:55 am (UTC)
I want to see the full cast listing. The actual credits for the actors, whose playing who and such.