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13 March 2010 @ 08:29 pm
chapter 105 RAW  
From Raw Paradise

Fast DDL (it'll be dead tommorow, though, lol)
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qashqai1 on March 13th, 2010 07:42 pm (UTC)
O fak, zapomniałam xDDD *newsman od siedmiu boleści*

No, mi też się podoba >:D fakt, że dopiero za 6 minut się ściągnie, ale... XD
r: Ed is happy!helpimtiredyo on March 13th, 2010 08:26 pm (UTC)
:D Yay <3
sallykie: yaysallykie on March 14th, 2010 12:26 am (UTC)
Thank you!

I realized something: Out of all the homunculi in this manga, Wrath/Bradley is the "most human" (even if he doesn't admit that). According to the way the homunculi think, this should make him the weakest - but he's pretty much the opposite of that. Additionally, out of the homunculi, Bradley is in my opinion the best character (depth, personality, backstory, kind of likeable despite being a bad guy). Okay, Greed is pretty good too, but yeah.

In the story, Arakawa has emphasized the importance and strengths of humanity (more as an attitude or outlook than an actual trait, considering how there are many non-human good guy characters who "act human"). And out of the non-human and anti-human villains, the homunculi, the most badass, toughest, most interesting character is the one who is most human. The other homunculi (at least Pride) have even noticed that, and frowned upon it, but I think that Arakawa is implying that it's the reason why Bradley is so awesome.

Additionally... When homunculi die after their Philosopher's Stones have been used up, they have all dissolved into dust; without their Philosoper's Stones, they're nothing. But now Bradley, who didn't have much PS in him (just the "Wrath" part of the original Homunculus' soul and one human soul just like every normal human), nor did he have flashy superpowers and regeneration and eternal youth (he just had good eyesight and reflexes and some durability), died - and his body did not dissolve. I think the "bonus effects" the small amount of PS had had on his body wore off, mainly his hair turned gray and he got some wrinkles on his face. But didnt dissolve, definitely. Because he wasn't what he was just because some shiny magic rock, he was what he was based on his own merits.

R.I.P, King Bradley. I think you were the best villain in the whole story, and you remained that way till the end. I don't usually start liking irredeemably villainous characters more than I did before after they've been defeated and died, but evidently that can happen, because it just did.
Russia's greatest love machine: not for honor but for yourandom_prophet on March 14th, 2010 12:44 am (UTC)
THIS although I've been convinced of this throughout most of the manga, ahaha. Considering how much of an asshole he is, I almost feel kind of bad that I like him so much, but damn, even though he's a gigantic douche I can't help but love how complex he is.

I'd also like to add in that I found it pretty interesting how he started identifying as the nameless human instead of Wrath at the beginning of his fight with Scar. Can't really say much about what he says/does to that end in this chapter (I read a translated script but bits were missing and some of the wording was wonky), but I'm kind of wondering if he's always had those ideas at the back of his mind... he also seemed happy to die on his own terms rather than doing what Father wanted, and the fact that he told Pride he liked when humans messed with Father's plans make me kind of wonder if he resented the fact that he was stuck living according to what Father wanted.
sallykie: huh?sallykie on March 14th, 2010 02:46 pm (UTC)
I think that despite being loyal to the Homunculi, deep inside his mind, Bradley/Wrath was siding with the humans, or at least kind of wishing that they would win. Also, Bradley is probably the most outspoken atheist in this manga (even when his "Father" had just devoured God/Truth, he declares there's no God!), but I've been thinking that instead of believing in gods, Bradley believed or wanted to believe in people. He was a "monster" himself, but he could see that there were perhaps more idealistic people out there, and even though he opposed them, he might also have wished that in the end, they would be the ones to triumph.

Damn it, Bradley/Wrath is a villainous, genocidal, spawn of an unholy abomination's deadly sin, fantasy counterpart Hitler, and yet he manages to make me have a bit of faith in the human nature...
Russia's greatest love machine: the drill that pierces the heavensrandom_prophet on March 14th, 2010 05:05 pm (UTC)
I'm not really sure about that; the script I read for this chapter makes me think he just... resents everyone, which is why he's, you know, Wrath. Although, honestly, it would make sense for it to be both, since he's basically both human and homunculus except they're not separate personalities like they are with Greed and Ling. ...and he doesn't like humans as much as Greed does, either. I think that's a great deal of what contributes to him resenting everybody; as a Homunculus, he's supposed to hate humans and treat them like scum, but as a human, he's sort of ": |" about the whole thing.

I think it's easier for him to take his anger out on humans, though, because they represent the things that the human side wants to have, but can't. I also think that's why he's such a douche over his wife in this chapter: the human side of him does love her, but as a Homunculus he's disgusted with himself that he feels human emotions for a human, so he resents her for that and doesn't admit to feeling anything.

I... don't know. Even though he's a terrible person I can't help but find him to be a really tragic character. ...who I want to write a ton of fanfic about but I don't have the patience for fanfic. : |
sallykiesallykie on March 14th, 2010 08:23 pm (UTC)
I'm not entirely sure either, it's just that... He's definitely no idealist, but sometimes it seems to me that he... Kind of has two layers of thinking, and while he personally opposes humans, he also has some kind of respect (that's probably the wrong word) for them for being able to be like that.

I didn't really see him as being a douche over his wife, although the two different translations I read seemed to differ a lot over the nuances of what he said, so maybe I just chose the interpretation I liked better. I'll wait till the more literal translation has been edited, now it's still a rough version... I saw that more as "there's no need for sappy last confessions, she already knows what the feelings between us are" kind of comment. But I won't say anything sure before the other translation is finished/redone.
Russia's greatest love machine: ran loves old guysrandom_prophet on March 14th, 2010 10:42 pm (UTC)
Possibly! He's a really complicated character, so it's kind of easy to choose the interpretation you like best.

Yeah I did see one of the translations have him refer to her as 'it,' which I was like "doooooouche" over, but now that I've really thought about it... that seems kind of weird considering Japanese doesn't really have gendered third-person pronouns. Unless he said something along the lines of "that thing" or if Japan has something that gives that sort of connotation... I don't really buy it. I'll wait for the final scanslations before I make a judgment.

Edited at 2010-03-14 10:43 pm (UTC)
sallykiesallykie on March 14th, 2010 10:52 pm (UTC)
I'm fairly sure that pretty much all scanlations use HisshouBuraiKen's translation, and he translated Bradley referring to his wife as "it". On the other hand, Tombow on Fullmetal-Alchemist.com translated it so that it sounded less harsh, and even then, he said that the wording turned up more "dry" in English than it did in Japanese, and Tombow is uaually known to translate as literally as possible, whereas HisshouBuraiKen occasionally takes creative liberties and it appears that he's trying to get the idea across and make it flow well in English rather than translate the exact, literal meanings. Whoa, that was a long sentence monster.
Russia's greatest love machine: oh god so tiredrandom_prophet on March 14th, 2010 11:06 pm (UTC)
Yeah I think I'm going to go with the less harsh version because it seems less... like a cheap attempt to make him Kick The Dog right before he dies. Because Arakawa is better than that.
Kitinulovinkit on March 14th, 2010 01:32 am (UTC)