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21 February 2010 @ 11:02 am
episode 45 discussion  
No usual post with discussion, so I'm making one. Short kind of summary with screenshots included lol.

Kickass Bradley is kickass. Animation during the Greed vs Wrath fight was awesome.

He attacks...

And Greeling lost his hair! At least part of them. So he ran away. Through window.

Pride doesn't like it.

Meanwhile, at Armstrong's place Father tells his children to fight!

So they do,

while the rest of family leaves to Xing.

Then we see May in Youswell. This scene feels forced, doesn't it?

About eyecatches, one was really cool.

And second one was Ed. Cool, badass Ed, with earrings. Yes, dear anime creators, we are all fangasming, so include even more Ed from now on... x_x

Then Ed meets with Greeling. ..

"I'll be your bitch." (btw, doesn't Ed's eyes looks different? Seriously. He also have shorter bangs. And different, more hohoish jawline at some scenes. o_O; seems like creators really want to make a Hoho clone of him)

"Now that sounds nice dude!"

Random ugly dog is ugly.

We also have Izumi in Briggs...

"I'm a housewife!" - the most badass line ever

Only me disturbed by the lack of dot (or sth like that) between 2 and 9?

Mmm nice ass...

Besides of showing her ass, Rebecca meets with Riza

and hands her over a message.

She gives it to Havoc, and he gives it to Roy.

Roy reads it...

And destroys it in the kickass way.

We also have some cool scenes in the ending.

And in the preview...

Now, come to bed, baby.

Also, you can watch actual episode online here (also uploaded this file here).
So, erm, let's discuss? XD
Highwind Engineer #3he03 on February 21st, 2010 10:16 am (UTC)
ILU long tiem!!! Thank you for the screencaps (wow, so fast) and for the online stream link. I was content to wait for the raw, but then you came along and save the day. XD
Tsukihimetsukihime_san on February 21st, 2010 06:04 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much for the upload! I will have to watch subbed version to completely understand everything but it was so nice to satisfy my cravings a bit with the raw version!
Thank you again!

btw why are you disturbed by the lack of dot b/w 2 and 9? It seems like it's calendar, and it's 29th of some month? Maybe?

qashqai1 on February 21st, 2010 06:10 pm (UTC)
In the manga the meat day is on 9 feb., so I thought there should be 2.9 as month.day XD
Tsukihime: oopstsukihime_san on February 21st, 2010 07:08 pm (UTC)
Wow! I was completely oblivious to this! Meat day, huh! Yeah, now having a dot makes sense.

They seem to be a bit careless in anime for example, the way Ed's face keeps changing from episode to episode and sometimes I notice people on background to be the same in Central and in Youswell >.<
In any case, great episode, that's just me being nitpicky...
qashqai1 on February 21st, 2010 07:25 pm (UTC)
Well, about Ed's face changing, I don't think it's being nitpicky... I mean, he looks like a different person *cough*young!Hoho*cough*
Tsukihime: catsytsukihime_san on February 21st, 2010 07:33 pm (UTC)
Yeah. I know, he is supposed to look lke his father, but making him a twin is kinda "meh" to me. I liked his face better before. Plus, you know, in manga when "the biggest bad guy" turned young for a sec I was, "Wtf? Is he turning to Ed or to Young!Hoho or the whole world now's gonna look more or less Hoho-ish?" XD

I like when each character is easily recognizable and unique. When they start looking like each other's copy... it's a bit disappointing.
qashqai1 on February 21st, 2010 07:41 pm (UTC)
Well, imo in the manga Arakawa still keeps the difference between him and young!Hoho/the new Father; I didn't thought that this new Father could be Ed for even a moment because of next-to-last page, where we can clearly see the difference between their jawlines. Thought it could be Al's body for a moment (I noticed he has the same jawline as hohopapa in chapter 102 XD), but page later "...if he'd changed it's shape to young Hoho's". XD
Tsukihime: unsuretsukihime_san on February 21st, 2010 07:53 pm (UTC)
You are right - Arakawa is way more particular about the differences between Ed/Hoho/Father. When I look at them side to side I can tell them apart. Though, not being artistically gifted, I have to see both to see the distinctions. And, truth be told, anime is messing up my mental image of each character quite a lot. So when I saw young!Father I totally freaked and thought "Wow! has he switched to copying Ed now? Hoho got rejected as a role model?" :)
Tsukihime: can't handle the truthtsukihime_san on February 21st, 2010 07:35 pm (UTC)
oh, forgot to say - the preview capture +comment are made of win. Even not being a huge Winry/Ed fan, I loved it to bits. <3
qashqai1 on February 21st, 2010 07:42 pm (UTC)
Personally, I don't like Ed/Win at all, but when I saw that scene, I couldn't resist to write that comment. XD
Tsukihimetsukihime_san on February 21st, 2010 07:47 pm (UTC)
*nods* I watched episode after I saw your screencaps - your comment was still in my had. I love how FMA feeds fanservice every chance they get <3 and I think your line should've been on a screen (at least in subs :))
Tsukihime: oopstsukihime_san on February 21st, 2010 07:55 pm (UTC)
comment grammar fail!
I meant "your comment was still in my had head. >.
kettle_catkettle_cat on March 4th, 2010 08:29 pm (UTC)
Stary post jest stary ale..... parsknęłam śmiechem jak zobaczyłam 'zuo' xD
roynriza4everroynriza4ever on February 21st, 2010 06:43 pm (UTC)
riza's hair looks longer in that pic she is accepting the note from rebecca.

havoc is kickass. wish he was around more!!!

that last scan with ed and winry is kinda suggestive! lmao. love the caption with it :D
zeowynda312: SEX TIEMS?zeowynda312 on February 21st, 2010 07:12 pm (UTC)
Wow, thanks for the link! This is the first time I've been able to watch the raws this fast in a while.

Ed does indeed look older. I ain't complainin. ^^ And they keep slanting his eyes because for whatever reason, Arakawa started drawing him like that a lot lately. Not sure why.

And OMG. If there was any doubt that Bones is trying to suck up to EdWin fans as much as possible, it has been thoroughly shattered with that eyecatch. And that preview image. (I seriously don't think he was on a BED in the manga. :3 ) I squeed a lil bit. Not gonna lie.

qashqai1 on February 21st, 2010 07:23 pm (UTC)
Nah, Ed doesn't look older. He look like a different person XD and Arakawa, unlike those animators now, keeps the difference between him and young Hohenheim. Look at this; in this episode he looks rather like young Hoho than Ed... XD
zeowynda312: mwahahazeowynda312 on February 21st, 2010 07:59 pm (UTC)
Well shit. I didn't realize that they'd done that.

Arakawa made a VERY distinctive difference between young!Hoho and Ed. Slave #23 was more gaunt and angular. His face was quite a bit harsher and didn't have the softness that Ed's does. But since the animators neglected to make papa!Hoho as lanky as he should be, Ed ends up looking like him even when he shouldn't.

Oh well, we'll get a different set of animators next week and he'll look COMPLETELY DIFFERENT all over again. XD

qashqai1 on February 21st, 2010 08:18 pm (UTC)
Hmm, I think the biggest difference between young!Hoho and Ed is the thing that Ed has a wider face, bigger forehead, mouth closer to nose and such. Just some Trisha's features for a change *yay for kids being a mix of parents instead of being their clones* XD XD XD

lol, so true. XD
The Binary Alchemist: Beautiful Munichbinaryalchemist on February 21st, 2010 08:05 pm (UTC)
What I noticed in the manga is that after Ed performs the self-transmutation to save his own life (which he also suggests may shorten his life a little)he physically changes--looking more like a 20 year old than a 16 year old. His face changes and you notice it when he walks through the clinic in the white coat with his hair down (and the yakitori stick between his teeth) and he is taller in the manga in chapter 84 (which begins next week--do you believe we've already worked through the first 20 volumes/83 chapters of the manga in 45 EPISODES???). And while that is fine--I think Adult/Older Ed is incredibly sexy--Arakawa then goes back and forth between the more mature young adult features to the young teen features to the little kid. I really didn't like how she made Ed look young in those recent chapters in the Father's lair (especially when Roy returns from the Gate and Ed is grabbing at his legs--Ed looks really, really childish and it subverts the tension of the moment).
At this point Ed is chronologically 16. I can buy him changing some due to the transmutation--but keep it consistant...aside from those ever-annoying SD Chibi moments...
qashqai1 on February 21st, 2010 08:15 pm (UTC)
I don't think he really changed much after the transmutation. He was just a little thinner and changed hairstyle a little. About height... Well, he was already taller than Winry in volume 12, but oh well. His growing up may also relate to his link with Al's body. I think it got weaker and he stopped "growing for Al" in one moment (well, now they have separate Gates again...). :P
In any case, he doesn't look THAT much like Hohenheim in any moment of manga. Even on those sketches of 20, 30, 40 and so years old Ed he still has different face feature from Hoho.
sallykie: huh?sallykie on February 21st, 2010 08:38 pm (UTC)
*looked at some of Qashqai's posts* Evidently, Ed is borrowing either Al's or 23's skull now.

...Why do they feel the need to have the eyecatches highlighted with pink all the time? Except when they actually have pink backgrounds (like the first ones for Scar and Roy). It is... Kind of amusing.
kurokaze_samakurokaze_sama on February 21st, 2010 10:05 pm (UTC)
You win.
... I don't know what, but you win. You just do.