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03 June 2009 @ 10:49 am
FMA Brotherhood TV Ratings  
I thought maybe people would be interested in this. It is a comparison between FMA's ratings with Code Geass R2 and Gundam 00 Series 2 which were all in the same time slot. The following was taken from Anime Suki where you can see the ratings for many different anime series.

       R2   002   FMA
第01回…3.0%● 4.5%○ 3.8%●
第02回…2.6%● 4.4%● 5.3%○
第03回…2.8%● 4.2%○ 3.3%●
第04回…1.4%● 3.0%○ 2.6%●
第05回…1.8%● 5.1%○ 3.4%●
第06回…2.4%● 4.3%○ 3.3%●
第07回…1.9%● 3.9%○ 3.7%●
第08回…2.0%● 4.3%○ 4.0%●
第09回…3.3%● 4.8%● 5.8%○
第10回…2.1%  4.4%  -.-%
第11回…3.2%  6.3%  -.-%
第12回…2.9%  3.7%  -.-%
第13回…2.2%  5.2%  -.-%
第14回…2.7%  5.3%  -.-%
第15回…2.2%  4.3%  -.-%
第16回…2.1%  4.9%  -.-%
第17回…1.8%  4.5%  -.-%
第18回…2.2%  3.7%  -.-%
第19回…3.6%  5.0%  -.-%
第20回…3.7%  5.2%  -.-%
第21回…2.6%  4.4%  -.-%
第22回…3.9%  4.6%  -.-%
第23回…4.0%  4.4%  -.-%
第24回…2.8%  3.9%  -.-%
第25回…3.5%  3.5%  -.-%
AVG  2.67% 4.47% 3.91%

You will notice that FMA:Brotherhood's ratings were falling for awhile. It's worse ratings were episode 4 (the Nina episode). Now I wonder if that was a reflection on episode 3 (which in my opinion was the worst episode) or maybe people just didn't want to see what happened to Nina again. But anyways since episode 7 it looks like they have been steadily improving (knock on wood) and episode 9 has had the highest ratings yet. The ratings are not quite as good as Gundam 00 but so far definitely stronger than Code Geass R2.

And although I can't find the direct link it was also mentioned that FMA: Brotherhood has been one of the top most recorded series.
ρ ρ fight da powahimti on June 3rd, 2009 04:44 pm (UTC)
How do ratings affect the series? Like, does it affect their budget or something because of ad revenue? I'm only familiar with how ratings work in the US. So many good shows (Arrested Development, Pushing Daisies, etc.) canceled because of low ratings D: Though, I'm pretty sure that's not how it works with anime. I'm just curious about how ratings are correlated with the production of Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood.
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Kim: Samurai Alkirarakim on June 3rd, 2009 05:27 pm (UTC)
Personally, I'd love to see the series cancelled so that we have even a remote and distant chance of a competent crew taking up a manga adaptation sometime in the future.

Can you think of an anime series that was ever canceled? I sure can't. It is not like American TV in that regard. Even at its worst ratings 2.6 there are other series with far smaller ratings that did not have a chance of getting canceled.

The rise in ratings may reflect more fans actually tuning in as a form of support, since the low ratings and the resulting shitfit was a pretty big deal in discussions about the series.

I am sure there are many factors just like I am sure there were many factors for the lower ratings previously.
ρ ρ fight da powahimti on June 3rd, 2009 05:42 pm (UTC)
Exactly. I wasn't really concerned about the series being canceled due to low ratings because I've never heard of that happening for any anime series. But if the budget was scaled back due to a drop in ad revenue, then I would worry about the quality of the series.
Kim: Edwinkirarakim on June 3rd, 2009 05:46 pm (UTC)
I would assume the series has a fixed budget but then again I am not an expert. But anyways the ratings have been improving and that is the important thing. :)

I think if you peruse through that Anime Suki thread they may explain things a bit more.
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Kim: Edward Elrickirarakim on June 3rd, 2009 05:57 pm (UTC)
Inuyasha ran for about 167 episodes, the manga was not even close to complete at the time and it was filled with filler. The two series are not even comparable. Although we don't have an official episode count I would be shocked if Bones doesn't have a general one in mind and they probably already discussed the ending with Arakawa. Although the FMA manga is still ongoing it is definitely nearing its end.

Edited at 2009-06-03 06:01 pm (UTC)
ρ ρ fight da powahimti on June 3rd, 2009 06:05 pm (UTC)
Yes, but sinnesspiel's last paragraph concerning plots would apply to this series. I wouldn't want any major aspects of the storyline to be shortened due to certain constraints.
Kim: Edward Elrickirarakim on June 3rd, 2009 06:18 pm (UTC)
But they most likely have a planned budget and if not a fixed episode count at least a general idea of how many episodes they will need. I guess the only hole in this argument is the manga is not finished but it is nearing its end and they could easily have had a meeting with Arakawa about this. So I think unlike Inuyasha for example this series is probably already a lot more planned out. Unless you think Bones wants to turn this series into the next big ongoing shounen series but considering their past record I doubt it.

Edited at 2009-06-03 06:21 pm (UTC)
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Kimkirarakim on June 3rd, 2009 09:49 pm (UTC)
I don't think you get what I am saying. And I was definitely not comparing the artistic merits of these series. I am saying there is a difference between a series with a fixed episode count (Code Geass R2 that was planned to run for 25 episodes) and a series with no fixed episode rate (Inuyasha & Ranma that ran until its ratings could sustain it).

What I am trying to say is although no official episode count has been released to the public yet I think Fullmetal Alchemist is similar to Code Geass R2 in that Bones has a general if not specific planned episode count.

So I will rephrase my question: Can you think of any anime series where the episode count was announced where that series was canceled before it reached this announced episode count? Only counting cancellation due to low ratings not censorship. If a series was not picked up for an additional season that doesn't count. And yes I realize FMA does not have an official episode count yet but I would be really surprised if there at least isn't a general idea or at least no more than X episodes.

Edited at 2009-06-03 10:21 pm (UTC)
ρ ρ fight da powahimti on June 3rd, 2009 05:57 pm (UTC)
Ah, okay. That's what I wanted to know. It would be a shame if the budget prevented the inclusion of all the plot-lines in the series.
This Bison Be Jammin': Kickin' it Prairie Style: shuu/kirajamminbison on June 3rd, 2009 06:44 pm (UTC)
Random interjection
Can you think of an anime series that was ever canceled?

Pretty Cure.
Kasumi Lovegoodkasumicc on June 3rd, 2009 09:45 pm (UTC)
Re: Random interjection
Huh? xD

*I'd love indeed to see Pretty Cure finished once for all; but that certainly won't happen...*
ρ ρ fight da powahimti on June 3rd, 2009 05:49 pm (UTC)
Uh, I think you misunderstood my question. hahah. I'm already aware that the way ratings are calculated are not an accurate representation of who's watching what. And I don't really care who's making a profit. I was more concerned of whether low ratings will result in a lower quality production of the series.
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PikaBot: hermes RAEPpikabot on June 4th, 2009 02:16 am (UTC)
pretty low budget production

You don't watch a lot of television animation, do you?
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PikaBot: chopper!luffypikabot on June 4th, 2009 07:02 am (UTC)
OK, so you're either trolling or...something. I don't even know.

You don't have to like the style, but if there's one thing the animation in FMA:B is not, it's low budget.
Toraneko: Gundam 00 - Lockon OM NOM HAROdarkyo on June 3rd, 2009 04:55 pm (UTC)
FMA > Geass and G00, seriously.
niveous_magics: gallowsniveous_magics on June 3rd, 2009 05:02 pm (UTC)
hopefully they won't start remaking or editing the dark scenes in the coming episodes because of the ratings... :( damn, blood and creepiness of certain episodes is exactly what I like about the show now. although to be honest, I was pretty shaken by how they did Nina's story and my sister who was watching it with me decided to take a break after that one and didn't watch episodes 5 through 9 till last Sunday when I managed to convince her that they weren't that scary. it seems that some Japanese viewers did exactly the same

Edited at 2009-06-03 05:15 pm (UTC)
never seen by waking eyes.: [envy] bring kisses for the beastbodyline on June 3rd, 2009 08:47 pm (UTC)
I might've missed it but I don't think I've seen this answered anywhere; how exactly do these ratings compare to that of the first animu?
Kasumi Lovegoodkasumicc on June 3rd, 2009 09:41 pm (UTC)
I wouldn't worry yet; given how rushed these episodes have been, I think they're aiming not towards a new audience, but towards the manga fandom and/or the people that followed the previous series.

However, this audience will tend to skip this part of the story, because they already watched it in some way with the previous anime. So, I bet the rating will keep getting higher starting from now, and specially after the Greed saga.