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15 May 2009 @ 09:32 am
Armstrong Question.... HOW wrong is he???  
I have a question on Armstrong-Wrongness.....

Warning sporks may be necessary to participate in this thread :)

Ryk and I were talking about Brotherhood and Armstrong last night. In light of the most recent episode, as well as the Manga, and the previous series, I've come to the conclusion that Armstrong is gay in a, spartan-man boy sort of way. I mean maybe it's just me, but there is NO fucking subtext when it comes to his I must hold you in my muscles or invites to Ed to feeling him when he's all bulked out. Ok it's innocent, I could let one invite go by without having my slash dirty mind runaway with the wrong, but damn the imagery and the fact it seems to happen with regularity to Ed just makes me totally convinced now.

Yes, this discussion is wrong in the most wrong sort of way, but Damn, Armstrong, as much as I love him is one of the wrongest scariest characters I've seen... :) And not because he's gay, but because he is, Armstrong, in general...

Does he sparkle in sex? Sorry if I made half of you spork your eyes out, but I keep seeing it and the only way to get rid of a sporkable image is by sharing it with those you love.... Right?
 
 
 
Anna: FMA - Ed/Armstrong *GLOMP!*kookiety on May 15th, 2009 02:00 pm (UTC)
Funny. I've also wondered if he's gay... There is a very funny Armstrong/Havoc fic I once read by velvet mace: here.

Though Armstrong/Riza may suddenly sound like the coolest thing ever... Armstrong/Rose?

OF COURSE HE SPARKLES DURING SEX!

Without the sparkley sparkles - there is no Armstrong.

Here, oogle the sparkleyness... I wish I knew who made the icon
redrose999: He cheatedredrose999 on May 15th, 2009 04:26 pm (UTC)
OMG, thank you for the link. I can sort of see him with a great number of people.

He'd have too, and of course have techniques handed down from generation to generation, but heaven know HOW he learned them....

Oooh I LOVE the icon! Sparkly Awesomeness! I must have, will credit! We need more Armstrong Love!

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eiliem: Trishaeiliem on May 15th, 2009 03:12 pm (UTC)
I've always gone with this interpretation

-he could very well be gay (Garfield/Armstrong everybody!!) but I really don't get any pervy vibes from him for Ed

really I don't - he rips his shirt off for everybody and I think the reason he hugs Ed so much is because he still considers him a child (which he has outright stated - much to Ed's dismay, lol), and therefore professional boundaries that he can't cross with his adult colleagues don't apply

-another thing maybe to consider is that he himself is an older brother (and a younger brother) who is obviously very attached to his family (and whose younger sister worships the ground he walks on - Electra complex much? lol), I think when he heard about Ed's sacrifice for Al (and attempt to resurrect his mother) that hit home for him in a really strong way - hence why he is so very emotional where Ed is concerned

as for the touching-muscles-thing? Armstrong thinks his strength is God's gift to humanity, and I'm not reading anything about sexuality there, and everything about strength of character for him - remember when he was trying to intimidate Sig with his glorious muscles? XP I think in Armstrong's worldview a strong body means a strong person

Why else do you think Olivia is still unmarried? The SEX!SPARKLES scared off all her suitors
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Rynne Parker: Itachiacediance on May 15th, 2009 02:28 pm (UTC)
YES ARMSTRONG ORGASMS SPARKLES ♥ ♥ ♥

That seems like such a wrong thing to say, but oh so right.

I whole-heartedly approve of sex!sparkles. XD
redrose999: Inner Edredrose999 on May 15th, 2009 04:29 pm (UTC)
*the picture in my head* Yes, yes he'd have too, seriously.

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redrose999: Mind Raperedrose999 on May 15th, 2009 04:33 pm (UTC)
LOL brilliant and totally scary theory!
LMAO You know... taken who old European families worked (think of the Romanovs), this makes frightening sense ^_^;

It does explain Olivier's reaction too...

Now I have to spork by brain a few times...
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Neurotically  Yours,: FMA -diplomacyceirwy on May 15th, 2009 03:59 pm (UTC)
Well I think it's a possibility. A gay Armstrong doesn't sound all that farfetched ya know. The sparkles and the muscles and the jerrycurl... Yeah totally plausible.

or he's suffering from the anime type casting. Kinda like a Maito Gai, fiercely proud of his physique and enthusiastic to boot.
redrose999: Al smileredrose999 on May 15th, 2009 04:35 pm (UTC)
The jellycurl totally convinces me.... :)

That too. Poor thing,it's that or he escaped from the WWF....
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Orion117: A is for Armstrongorion117 on May 15th, 2009 04:25 pm (UTC)
In canon, I think he's straight, but sparkly. And I definitely agree the sparkles show up during sex. And since his older sister Olivia rejected all sentimentality, Alex got a double share, and wears his emotions on his sleeve. Ed and Al's sacrifice and suffering and mutual devotion are all qualities that he admires and respects, so I don't find his affection towards them surprising. It seems very fatherly to me.

How old is he supposed to be? I have an impression that he's a few years older than Roy, but I'm not sure how true that is.

Now in fanon, he's definitely slash-worthy! ranty_rie wrote an NC-17 Armstrong/Alfons fic that I love. Also, he and Roy seem very close in both the manga and the first anime, and it would be fun to see that developed.

In either case, Armstrong is one of my favorite FMA characters, and needs more love. In the manga, I'd love to know more about his relationship with his sister, and like to see him get more respect from her. In fanon, I'd like to see more fic! Just not with Rose.
redrose999: Inner Edredrose999 on May 15th, 2009 04:39 pm (UTC)
Cannon wise, I agree, fannon wise, it does bring some scary slash possibilities. Thank you for the link!

I think it will be interesting to see if they approach Armstrong investigating Hughe's death and how he and Roy work together in Brotherhood. It's nice he's become more of a person now.

I got the impression he was in his 30s myself.

Oh I agree. He's great! And I feel they've done a great deal with the fellow.
It would be nice to see more ficcage with him, seriously.
g_manluver on May 15th, 2009 04:27 pm (UTC)
He doesn't just sparkle during sex, when he sparkles all around him feel like they just had sex!

I'm kidding xP I'm not sure of his sexuality but he does seem to be a bit more sensitive than the average man let alone the average muscle man. So maybe.
redrose999: Al smileredrose999 on May 15th, 2009 04:41 pm (UTC)
*OMG the image*

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redrose999: Ed smugredrose999 on May 15th, 2009 08:50 pm (UTC)
He can go either way actually. Maybe he just likes to hug-crush everyone? Which could make him a *hugs crush slut* kind of sort of without that kind of touchy naughty way added in?
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Kerry: fma: wtf armstrong rapestarseed4 on May 15th, 2009 07:40 pm (UTC)
Armstrong to me is asexual. He's just... Armstrong. XD;
zeowynda312: SEX TIEMS?zeowynda312 on May 15th, 2009 07:56 pm (UTC)
Seconded!

I dunno...but the thought of Armstrong having sexual relations with EITHER gender just seems to taint him somehow.

It does make for great lulz, I'll admit...

But still. He's ARMSTRONG. That's all the explanation you need!
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mlle_bienvenumlle_bienvenu on May 16th, 2009 05:38 am (UTC)
I always figured he was sort of like Bull from Night Court. A big scary guy who's really all mushy and lovable inside. Actually it's sort of weird thinking of Armstrong having -any- kind of sex life... I'm going to go with the people above who say he's asexual. LOL
redrose999: Ed and Alexanderredrose999 on May 16th, 2009 03:59 pm (UTC)
He's very lovable really, sort of like the circus strongman (think side shows in the early 1900s), big guy with the big heart. And that's Alex! :)
Staunch Heliocentristannepackrat on May 16th, 2009 02:22 pm (UTC)
I don't know if Armstrong is gay. I do know, however, that he is a vampire.
redrose999: Ed smugredrose999 on May 16th, 2009 03:59 pm (UTC)
An empathic vampire?
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