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03 June 2004 @ 06:50 pm
The Sins  

Lately, with the manga veering off from the anime, a lot of confusion has been going on discussing the Sins, Hoienhemm, and various other FMA things.

Since I do not work on the anime production team, I can’t tell you what’s going to happen.

But I do have the manga, which is ahead of the anime. And give you all the info on it.

Let’s start with the sins.

 Yes, Hoeinhemm created the Sins. And is Ed's father. And is still alive. He is in a labrotory where Manga!Wrath brings back Greed, and finds Gluttony, Lust, and Envy waiting for him.

 

 This is manga sloth. Much different then the anime Juliet Douglass Trisha Elric Lookalike!Sloth. He's actually not there, but is rather chained up, or digging towrds something. Maybe a mixture of both, but this is speculation, and I want you all to know the facts.

 

Now, in the manga, there is never, ever, ever, ever, mention of the Sins being centuries old. Their ages are never mentioned. With Hoienhemm being pissed at Greed for going against his wishes, he decideds he's had enough of Greed, and destroyes him the only way he knows how.

 Yes, he melts Greed. Once Greed becomes a yummy wine like center, Hoienhemm dose the next step.

 He drinks him. Now, since all the Sins from Hoienhemm, the Sin "Greed" has now returned to Hoienhemm. That opens up a spot for another Greed, or no more Greeds.. *cough* Hughes *cough* But that's speculation for you all. :D

Now, wait a second.  What's he doing here, you might ask?

 

 Yes. Let me stress this. MANGA FUHRER IS WRATH. PEOPLE ARE NOT INCORRECT, LIKE SLOTH (But not to the same extant) ANIME SINS ARE DIFFERENT.

Now that certain comment is off my chest, I just wanted you all to know this info on the Sins. The manga is very different the the anime. It's changing, please, although it's spoil, keep this in mind. It'll help you with further FMA fandom. Now people don't have to constently remind people that little kid isn't Wrath in the manga.

^_^ Sorry if I came off rude.

 
 
chrononuriko on June 3rd, 2004 04:16 pm (UTC)
A manga post without even mentioning Barry and Ling?! I'm disappointed ;_;
billypilgrim on June 3rd, 2004 04:35 pm (UTC)
Sorry, but if Barry dosen't turn out to be Pride (Dear lord), then they have little revelance.
chrononuriko on June 3rd, 2004 04:43 pm (UTC)
How so? They have just as much relevance as, say, Tucker and Kimblee. Just because they aren't sins doesn't mean they don't exist.

Besides, they're my precious demi-villain comic relief duo <3

That and Barry did indeed (indirectly) cause the death of a certain character and what appears to be a rather climatic confrontation coming up in the next chapter.
billypilgrim on June 3rd, 2004 04:50 pm (UTC)
Well, this entire post is not on the manga on a whole, but rather the Sin situation. If I did it on the whole manga, I would of gone into the lack of the Lab. 5 incident in manga, and Maria Ross murder.
chrononuriko on June 3rd, 2004 04:52 pm (UTC)
Ah, I guess you are doing the sins only. Some of your wording confused me >_>;;;

Maybe I should do a post on Ling and Barry and spread their joy to the anime-only community <3
billypilgrim on June 3rd, 2004 04:55 pm (UTC)
Yeah. I have the tendency to not use the right vocabulary or wording. Yes, you should make a Barry Ling post. XD

Maybe we should be tottally!!1 elitist, and make an FMA manga community. It's becoming an Akira movie Vs. Akira manga kind of situation.
|<4ti3: sulk4ti3k4t35 on June 3rd, 2004 04:20 pm (UTC)
But I do have the manga, which is ahead of the manga.

Wow. Learn something new everyday! ^_^ *sparklies*

I liked the scans. They were fun. Didn't understand what post was about, however.

MOOSE.
brosef stalin, leader of the broletariat.: *eyeroll*arisato on June 3rd, 2004 04:31 pm (UTC)
The amount of wank this community generates over anima/manga theories creates friction powerful enough to set a small goat on fire.
|<4ti34ti3k4t35 on June 3rd, 2004 04:40 pm (UTC)
No! NOT FRANK!
brosef stalin, leader of the broletariat.arisato on June 3rd, 2004 04:41 pm (UTC)
YES FRANK. AND HIS LITTLE ARMY OF PUNKS, TOO.
|<4ti34ti3k4t35 on June 3rd, 2004 04:44 pm (UTC)
Nooooo!!! Fraaaaank!!
billypilgrim on June 3rd, 2004 04:37 pm (UTC)
I fixed the error, and what exactly didn't you understand?
|<4ti34ti3k4t35 on June 3rd, 2004 04:42 pm (UTC)
People argue! Wah! I don't read comments, so I usually have NO IDEA what's going on in pretty much every community I've ever joined. *sighs*
billypilgrim on June 3rd, 2004 04:43 pm (UTC)
Wait, wait. Now I'm confused. No more spamming my recourse threeeeeeeead!
|<4ti34ti3k4t35 on June 3rd, 2004 04:46 pm (UTC)
*spams your recourse thread*

Also, your icon is sexy. *licks*
billypilgrim on June 3rd, 2004 04:47 pm (UTC)
Shut up! Finals had fried the spelling part of my brain. ;_;..

..No licking of icons. Just your screen.
brosef stalin, leader of the broletariat.: the great pretendersarisato on June 3rd, 2004 04:32 pm (UTC)
Quite the opposite, dear. Very informative and, in some cases, very much-needed. Thanks!
billypilgrim on June 3rd, 2004 04:41 pm (UTC)
Glad to be of some help! ^_^
Poison Envy: Frightenwinter_ruins on June 3rd, 2004 04:40 pm (UTC)
O_O;;....

I think I like Trisha Elric Lookalike!Sloth more than Manga!Sloth. Manga!Sloth reminds me of a very buff Gluttony for some odd reason...

**cough** Where can I get past volume 4 of the manga? -.-;
billypilgrim on June 3rd, 2004 04:42 pm (UTC)
Well, I buy all the tanks (tankouban) at Kinokunyia at a japanese bookstore. These are in japanese, and 1-7 is out, with 8 on the way.
Poison Envy: Respectwinter_ruins on June 3rd, 2004 04:44 pm (UTC)
You know of no scans? I read hirigana and katakana, but being unable to read kanji really sets me back in reading raw manga XP

I'm sorry. ^^;; I'm probably being annoying now...
billypilgrim on June 3rd, 2004 04:45 pm (UTC)
The only raw scans I know of are Chinese. XD;; And I can't find the link. No, your not being annoying.

But, FMA like most shonen manga, gives the furigana for Kanji. ^^
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chrononuriko on June 3rd, 2004 04:51 pm (UTC)
It means that with Greed dead, another Greed can (and will) likely be created.

And this other Greed could end up being Hughes.

...Could, but it's totally speculation now.
billypilgrim on June 3rd, 2004 04:52 pm (UTC)
Well, I could of explained this better.

Assuming Greed is now inside Hoeinhemm, there is no Greed. Hoienhemm's "Greed Sin" has returned to him. Now he has the choice of making another homunculus. Or, just forgot about it. I was merely implying that he would create a Hughes copy homonculus to embody Greed, but that was just a thought. Seeing on how the currect running where homunculus bodies come from.
Absolutely no decorum.niwakaame on June 3rd, 2004 10:55 pm (UTC)
Ah,thank you,thank you,that was quite useful ^_^.
Though...my heart goes to the purple jelly...namely AniSloth and to shortie 'Wrath'...

This is only a conjectue,but you said 'Greed' went back to bein within in Hohenheim? So that would probably make the theory of cration of Homunculus totally different from Anime to manga...? In "real" myths,aren't the Homunculi made out of something like clay...or..nyo don't know...But maybe Hohenheim got himself rid of these 'Sins'...so as to attain the goal of becoming a 'perfect being'?
*shuts up for now*

Also,its funny to see the differences of ambiance between Anime and manga...Rather a "thick,heavy" ambiance for the manga..Though pleasureable,and all the horrors you'll see lighted by humor.But still,in the pictures you showed,and the overall 'march of the Homunculi' feeling...it sometimes feels like a reduced representatio of a 'mini-hell'...
While the Anime is more turned to a lighter,delightfuler(with still mystreies...) ambiance,seemingly more axed around more 'mysthical' mysteries...