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03 June 2004 @ 10:03 am
yet another question regarding ep 25:  
spoilers for 25 ^^

When Hughes was putting everything together he kept mumbling about everything being backwards. Does anybody have any clue if he meant anything beyond the deal with Douglas/Sloth?

And, if he did, is it possible that Edward is somehow the Philosopher's Stone?

Also, does anyone else think that it's possible that Hoenheim was a homunculous and he betrayed the others. Envy's bit about "Having his blood" was kind of, yeah. Any theories or anything?

Also, thanks to everyone who gave me such lovely answers and commiserations on my last post ^^, and also thanks to those who came bearing cold reality. But I still want him back! AU world here I come!

Thanks in advance!
Current Mood: curiouscurious
リミックス・サクラremix_sakura on June 3rd, 2004 09:39 am (UTC)
I figured Envy's resentment toward Edward for being related to Foenheim were based on, well, envy. The initial theory was that Foeneheim created one or more of the homonculi, and since they wanted to become human and Ed was a human child of his, this would cause Envy to be jealous.
wanderingwidget on June 3rd, 2004 12:01 pm (UTC)
hmmmmmm, but they're really old, so Hoenheim would have to be really old. Ergo, he would probably have had to of had the stone, so...

We are all fuzzy robots.makaioh on June 3rd, 2004 03:02 pm (UTC)
That's one of my theories, too. He has one. Or had one, and he lost it, and that's why he was looking for it. So he wouldn't die.
Absolutely no decorum.niwakaame on June 3rd, 2004 03:31 pm (UTC)
Hmm...That's more likely a completely different theory,but what if he wasn't talking about 'that' Hoheinheim...What if he was referring to a person from Edward's descendance who lived a few hundred years ago?..And who created him...Bleh,excuse the Shaman King influence...Unlike the Faust family,I believe extremism isn't quite a hereditary trait within the Elrics-okay,so let's forget that theory.

Envy has 'forgotten' his appearance,right? What if it was Hoheineim's fault if he had forgotten it-therefore can't go back to it...and it may be that in Envy's eyes this 'real body' of his was 'the proof that he existed'...(quote from Envy: 'We weren't created! We were born!'...But that wouldn't make THAT much sense with that quote.Or maybe,Hoheinheim came along,meant the Homonculi people,proved in various ways the fact they represented 'failure' and didn't really 'exist'....and upon that might lie the reason they seek to become human....

Excuse the cheesiness.
Ansem, seeker of the cock: Ed - Insignificant humanspowercorrupts on June 3rd, 2004 10:55 am (UTC)
Well, seeing as that the homunculus seem to resent their state, the fact that they do not like their maker terribly would make sense to me. And all the seven are accounted for, now, I think, so I wouldn't think Hohenheim could be one - it wouldn't make sense to me, because then that would point to someone who created him, which would only confuse and further complicate the issues.
Ed = Stone is a very, very scary theory. And now my muses aren't going to leave me alone...
But it doesn't work in some ways - for instance, Scar had some sort of affinity to the incomplete stone, so it would make sense that he would to Ed, as well. And it's painfully obvious that Hohenheim had not a complete stone, or else the purpose of the fifth lab would be kind of obsolete.

But the backwards thing... that is odd. It hints to some further revelations we have not yet heard, I think.
swissdariaswissdaria on June 3rd, 2004 11:21 am (UTC)
But i thought that the oldest homonculi were old... like 100 years old, and if Ed's dad made them, wouldn't that make him really old when he had Ed or something? There must have been someone else who made them as well. How about Izumi's sensei, i forget her name. She might have, and then just changed her ways. We don't get much info about her, so...

Another question: Why aren't Izumi and her sensei great friends? Izumi mentioned that they did things differently and that their alchemy was different... could that have tied in with the previous question?