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02 June 2004 @ 11:53 pm
episode 25  
Spoilers of Episode 25, in case there is actually anyone who doesn't know about it, also a spoiler for later in the manga but I don't know if it happens in the anime... ^^;, ranting, mild cursing, and a few questions.

So, yeah, I hate that ep. With a passion, a vengeance, and a lot. Yes, a very much lot. And, since I live in yaoi la la land anyway I am stating the following:

If Ed and Al get the stone and fix Al then they can bloody well fix Hughes dammit! And they WILL because if they do anything else I will be forced to cause them both grievious bodily harm.

But, seriously, what's to stop them (or Roy) from bringing Hughes back if/when they succeed?

Also, since when can Ed see dead people? And does anyone know what happens to Scieska, does she just dissappear?

Yeah, [/rant]

But why did they have to kill HUGHES???!!! They should have killed Armstrong or Hawkeye or I don't know but WHY HUGHES!!!

-- urm, cause it's a plot device so cleverly (not) designed to turn Roy into a complete and raving psychopath?

** shut up you, we're living in la la land here, remember? Hughes is alive, Roy's sane, and they're both living happily with Ed and Al. XP
Current Mood: gloomygrief, total and utter grief!
Kalika Maxwellkalikamaxwell on June 2nd, 2004 09:00 pm (UTC)
AU dear. AU. Lots and lots of us only accept his death as an angst device(and it's angst potential grew lots with that recent manga event...). Rest of the time we like to write fiction ignoring that ep. ^^;

wanderingwidget on June 3rd, 2004 06:42 am (UTC)
au au au au au au au au... ::le sigh::

I'm definately joining that cult/club/corner of the fandom ^^
リミックス・サクラremix_sakura on June 2nd, 2004 09:02 pm (UTC)
I feel your pain. That ep made me cry, seriously. But I don't think that Hughes can or will be brought back. One of FMA's biggest themes is the nature of life, often painful. In a future episode you will see this explained by Izumi. But Hughes' death, pointless and painful as it was, will serve a metaphorical purpose.

And don't hate the entire episode. It had some interesting plot development. And I really liked the flashback in the beginning. It said a lot about both Hughes and Roy.
wanderingwidget on June 3rd, 2004 06:40 am (UTC)
yes, the flashback was very... revealing. Roy actually is human. But it just made it all the harder to watch Hughes die.

Grr, if only he hadn't of dropped that picture then Envy wouldn't have known to turn into Gracia and and and WAH!

As for the nature of life... yup, FMA does seem to like that, a LOT. That makes me somewhat wary of what's gonna happen at the end because, well, it's an anime and obviously they don't care about killing characters off.

::runs off to pray at altar of semi-happy endings::
breakin' through the doormiss_arel on June 2nd, 2004 09:11 pm (UTC)
The fact that you're so upset indicates that the show really is very good at getitng viewers emotionally involved. Which is why it's a good show. Killing off Hughes, one of the most beloved characters in the series, makes us more emotionally invested (and makes it very difficult for me to like Eny. Sexy as he/she/it is.) The Nina episode had the same effect. I cried at the end of that episode. (The only reason I didn't cry for Hughes is because Lelldorin spoiled it for me in advance, so I knew it was coming. Damn him . . . *cracks knuckles*)

As for the ghosty thing . . . I think anyone can see the dead, but only if they want to be seen. Hughes wanted to say good-bye to Ed and co; so, he did.

Personally, i don't think they should bring Hughes back to life, at least in the anime. I'm very happy to write, read and draw AU fiction and art in which he is alive, well, and happy, but as far as the anime is concerned, it would just be cheap for him to be brought back to life. All I hope for is that his death will mean something. I think dying for nothing is one of the worst things you can do.

Drink with me to days gone by
Can it be you fear to die?
Will the world remember you when you fall?
Could it be your death means nothing at all?
Is your life just one more life?

Angels, I hope not.

Rest in peace, Maes Hughes.
wanderingwidget on June 3rd, 2004 06:36 am (UTC)
... actually got to agree with you, as a writer, I can see that bringing him back wouldn't work... but as a raving fangirl I just want my Hughes back... oh the woes, the woes.

Still, they should have taken out Armstrong!

Maybe we'll get lucky and Roy will have a couple of cute/angsty/happy flashbacks or summat.

Kristenneo_queen157 on June 2nd, 2004 09:14 pm (UTC)
I dunno... I don't think Hughes is really dead. It was a FAKE Huges! :x
wanderingwidget on June 3rd, 2004 06:33 am (UTC)
yes, yes exactly!
chrononuriko on June 2nd, 2004 09:22 pm (UTC)
Sciezka is still around, sort of. Though the anime is paying less attention to her -- but with the gigantic cast of characters it has, and the fact that the military hasn't been the main focus the past few episodes, yeah...

And Roy isn't really a complete psychopath in the manga...I mean, he might turn into one, but the orders were shoot to kill anyway. He just got to her before anyone else did >_>;...killing a prisoner suspected of murdering your best friend that is trying to escape while the orders are shoot to kill isn't exactly that odd or 'psychopath' worthy.
wanderingwidget on June 3rd, 2004 06:33 am (UTC)
but he looked freaky-scary. and she didn't do anything wah! but it makes me feel better to know that he hasn't slipped into complete psycho-land... yet

::crosses fingers::

angsty lemon ukewabisuke on June 2nd, 2004 09:30 pm (UTC)
The real Hughes died when Roy set him and himself on fire as children (Hughes put too much rubbing alcohol on Roy's wounded knee, you know the rest). The Hughes and Roy you see in the anime are robots. Envy just shot Hughes' unreplaceable battery so that's why he's dead for good.


Seriously, I hate and love that episode. As much as I love Hughes, I believe he should stay dead. Bringing him back to life goes against the whole theme and points of the story, as someone said before.
wanderingwidget on June 3rd, 2004 06:31 am (UTC)
grrrrrrrrrrrrr >< no! I want him back. He's nice and cute and cuddly and scruffy and freaking BISHI dammit. Other than that... well, Roy needs him and I like living in la la land thankyouverymuch.

::runs off to sob::
Poison Envy: Sex on Legs [gift from yukihime9]winter_ruins on June 3rd, 2004 06:55 am (UTC)
Am I the only one who liked the episode and made me fangirl Envy more?

If only for one line... "Pretty good acting, eh?" -.-; (and the fact the I love love love angst. The Nina episode was another favorite, and it made me nearly cry) **Is a wanna be actress**

... I still cried during the funeral though. **Huggles Hughes**
galeforce_windsgaleforce_winds on June 3rd, 2004 10:26 am (UTC)
Story plotline and whatnot aside, even if they did bring him back, would Hughes be very happy at being brought back by human transmutation? I dont think he would, personally...I think even despite being able to see his wife and child again, I dont think he'd be for it ethically.
wanderingwidget on June 3rd, 2004 11:58 am (UTC)
and you think that Al would let Ed use a stone created from people? Not likely. But this is la la land and I want him back! ^^