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14 October 2007 @ 09:23 pm
Anime Question  
I've got a question, didn't see it addressed anywhere. It's basically a case of I read something in a fic and was wondering if it was made up by a fan, or if it's something from actually answered in the series - since I still haven't seen all of the anime.

Apologies if this isn't appropriate, please let me know and feel free to delete.

Putting it behind a LJ-cut since the question itself could be considered a spoiler for some.

My specific question is, when Alphonse becomes a state alchemist, are we ever told what his title is? If so, what is it? (As in, Ed was Fullmetal, and so on and so forth.)

I'd ask the author of the fanfic, but I read it a while ago and haven't been able to find it since. I actually can't even remember what they used, just that referred to him as the "something" alchemist.

This got me to wondering about fanon (fan info accepted as fact) versus canon (established fact from the series). I've seen some things like that pop up in other fandoms.

So if you want, are there any other strange bits of info floating around the fma community that are fanon as compared to canon? Or the reverse, something that is totally based in the series, but commonly misinterpreted as being false?

Thanks for your time!
Sarah: aru-arugundamnook on October 15th, 2007 04:50 am (UTC)
Alphonse does take the State Alchemist exams along with Ed, but Roy asks Al not to finish them because he would have to under go a physical exam. And if him and Ed didn't want to be found out than Al couldn't join the army. So, no, Al was never a State Alchemist. A lot of fanfic authors have had Al become a State Alchemist in their fics and have even given him the title of "Armor Alchemist" or some variation of it.

I hope that answers your question! ^^
soshonisoshoni on October 15th, 2007 05:04 am (UTC)
I thought that he became a state alchemist at the very end of the anime and into the movie?
I want to create something beautiful ☆: *o*numi_nami on October 15th, 2007 05:09 am (UTC)
Alphonse? No, he never becomes a state alchemist. Aside from the fact that he's under the tutelage of Izumi, we never see him with his own state watch, do we?
soshonisoshoni on October 15th, 2007 05:10 am (UTC)
Crap, I just saw the movie and now I can't remember if he had a watch in it or not.

And the reason I have to ask is that I didn't see the end of the anime. -_-
I want to create something beautiful ☆: autophobianumi_nami on October 15th, 2007 05:14 am (UTC)
Why haven't you seen the end? It was the best part, IMHO. Oh yes.
soshonisoshoni on October 15th, 2007 05:15 am (UTC)
Just haven't gotten ahold of it yet. I've had other things to buy, and renting it from Blockbuster is a crapshoot as to which they have available.
Hewene: sleepy edsayhello on October 15th, 2007 05:29 am (UTC)
Oh, man, all the episodes are available somewhere on YouTube. You've GOT to see the end of the anime! How in the world did the movie even make sense to you if you hadn't seen the end?

But numi_nami and gundamnook are both correct. Alphonse has never been a State Alchemist in either anime, movie or manga canon. Only in Fanon. (Where others also have Al becoming a State Alchemist after somehow getting his body back).
soshonisoshoni on October 15th, 2007 05:31 am (UTC)
I cheated and read up on the end as best I could - I just couldn't miss out on going to the theatre to see the movie until I'd managed to finish up the series.
Sarah: envy (nagisathesis)gundamnook on October 15th, 2007 05:11 am (UTC)
Nope, Al was never a State Alchemist. Even at the end of the anime and in the movie, he was never part of the military. Didn't you say you haven't seen all of the anime yet?
soshonisoshoni on October 15th, 2007 05:19 am (UTC)
Yep, but I'd really gotten the impression from the movie, and it was supported in my mind by some of the things that I'd read.
I want to create something beautiful ☆: autophobia_02numi_nami on October 15th, 2007 05:13 am (UTC)
I agree with gundamnook; both brothers had passed the exam on theory, but Roy advised Al not to go on because there is a physical examination after that.

Alphonse, in canon, is never shown retaking the State Alchemist Exam. It's rather open-ended, so for post-series fics the premise that Al becomes a State Alchemist is rather popular.
soshonisoshoni on October 15th, 2007 05:48 am (UTC)
I knew the bit about him not going through with it the first time, despite passing the tests.

I find my thinking that he did pass them in the end, to be amusing considering the rest of my post.

It would explain why I couldn't find a title for him, lol.

Thanks for answering this for me, guys!
Izzuhonou_no_izumi on October 15th, 2007 01:00 pm (UTC)
No. In the anime, he never get to become state alchemist because yes, the physical examination at which if ever Al got through to being a state alchemist by taking that exam meaning he won't be able to become one anyway since the fact that they tried to do a human transmutation that is a taboo would be revealed anyway.

And no, not in the movie since he did not have the watch and he had been going under the guise of Ed's persona. Also. considering that Roy had demoted himself to private, it was unlikely that the military would just give the same privilage to run around freely to Al. Coz the only one tat likely to do that is Roy. If Al had been a state alchemist, you'd be seeing him in uniform instead and be attached to his military duties.
Susie: Roy Flamesapphyre_kikyo on October 15th, 2007 01:26 pm (UTC)
Al is never certified because as Mustang points out, there will be a physical exam, and they don't want anyone knowing about Al's non-exsistant body. So even though Al aced the written exam (which was written to be impossible to ace), he never becomes a State Alchemist.
Chloe-girl: Al & Mei; cutegrass_angel on October 17th, 2007 09:21 am (UTC)
For some reason my mind is saying that the name you're looking for has 'Soul' in it somewhere. Even though all the previous comments have nay-sayed Al actually getting the qualifiction I'm sure I read something with a title like that.

Any other strange bits of fanon that I know? The one that I've seen somewhat a lot of is Roy being Xingian/part Xingian.