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06 August 2007 @ 11:50 pm
post of appoloy  
This post is in respone to my earlier FMA post "lets have fun with dialogue" i have received sevral post stating that the idea used in this post is not original and was, infact, previously used by ZOMGFTA, and have been flamed for this

i am sorry to hear this, but i will state this clearly: i have not seen this page on the internet before, and pror to this post i have never heard of ZOMGFTA.the page was scanned from my manga book (vol. 16 which was given to me as a gift from my friend on her return from hong kong) the idea for this was inspired by a fanfiction i stumbled across on mediaminer.org where the fma characters were doing kareoke (edward sang "nobody's home" lust sang "i feel like a woman" roy sang "relight my fire" rose sang "let's dance" and scar sang "i will survive").

i appologise sincerly for any copyright theft but assure you that it was NOT intentional, as an art student i beleive in origianality any feel ashamed that, acident though it was, that i have taken a previously used idea. To ZOMGFTA, and all the people of livejournal.com and deviantart.com i appologise sincerly, and if someone will give me the e-mail address of the ZOMGFTA moderators, i will e-mail them with a formal appology for this post. in addition to this, the deviantation will be removed from my page and this same message will be posted on my homepage.

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errantimpulseserrantimpulses on August 7th, 2007 02:26 am (UTC)
Hi. I saw the comic, and I thought it was funny. Upon seeing the link to zomgfta, I have to agree that the similarities are too striking to be coincidence.

However, you shouldn't have to give a public apology, and hopefully you'll believe me, and hopefully others will agree that grygon was being a bit of an asshole, hammering at you. What everyone needs to realize is that getting scanlated manga off the internet is ILLEGAL. I really didn't understand the whole, "I'M GONNA REPORT YOU TO THEM AND SEE WHAT THEY SAY!" They're illegally redistributing copyrighted material! wtf! it really cracked me up. You know, in that bad way, where you have to laugh at how stupid and mean people are, otherwise you'll start crying...at how mean and stupid they are.

Again, don't apologize, sweetie. Thanks to them, some people who might contribute money to manga artists* by buying the books don't actually buy the books, thinking, "why buy it, I can just download it!" and, like I said, could potentially face jail time for what they do. You republished ONE PAGE of fanmodified art (which, honestly, while I think they are too striking to be coincidence, MAY NOT HAVE BEEN. only you know.). If you really believe you did that on your own, then why are you apologizing? Because some asshole told you to? Whatever.

*Note, I actually don't have anything AGAINST scanlators, I actually love them to bits and would be quite put out if they went away, but I just hate when people forget that scanlator circles, doujinshi circles, and fanart are all illegal, and has no protection under the law.
Kim: Angry Alkirarakim on August 7th, 2007 02:50 am (UTC)
You know not everyone who downloads scanlations doesn't support the manga. I download scanlations and still buy both the Japanese and English releases of the manga. And I know for a fact that ZOMGFTA also supports the official releases of the manga. They scanlate the chapters so fans can be up-to-date with the manga not so people can steal it. And yes I realize intentions don't matter when it comes to copyright but I think your whole tone thanks to them is not really needed. If people don't support the manga that is their problem and it has nothing to do with ZOMGFTA.
errantimpulses: inertiaerrantimpulses on August 7th, 2007 03:58 am (UTC)
I do know that some people buy the manga after downloading it. Note up there that I said "some" people will download and not buy, not ALL. I also do both. I know they do it out of love for the manga, and love of the fans (because if they could translate it themselves, they could just keep it to themselve, no one's making them put it up for us to download.), which is why I do love and appreciate them lots.

However, people are acting like this is completely original work that is zomgfta's property, which it's not. And yes, thanks to them, some people will be stealing the work. I'm sorry if you don't want to believe that, but it's true. ::shrugs::

And I'll admit my tone is being harsh here, but please check the original post - grygon was coming down incredibly hard on freaks, which is why I don't want to mince words here. So again. I support scanlators. I think they're doing a great job, but people should not get so pissy on their behalf like this, when they do not own the original copyright, and have no legal rights to the original work anyway. I could take every single page that zomgfta scanlated and post it on my personal livejournal, free for anyone to view, and say I scanlated them myself, and they wouldn't be able to do a damn thing about it, because neither of us have any real legal claims to those pages, and it just annoys me when people think otherwise. Grygon could rant and rave and demand all the apologies s/he wanted from me, but should it go to court, the scenario would end up with both of us paying money to viz.

Now, would I do that? no, because I know the time and effort it takes to scan and translate a comic - it's a pain in the ass. But bottom line, if Freaks WANTS to give an apology, she should give one. No one should demand and apology, rudely, for a third party, and then keep pestering about it.
Kim: FMA Brotherskirarakim on August 7th, 2007 04:30 am (UTC)
I understand that you were just defending someone and I respect that (I am not going to get into whether she was wrong or not) but I just thought it was unfair that you seemed to be putting down ZOMGFTA when they actually have not said one word on this issue it was just some people who read their scanlations and obviously ZOMGFTA can't control what others say regarding their scanlations. They were not attacking anyone. However I have nothing against you defending someone from personal attacks.
errantimpulseserrantimpulses on August 7th, 2007 11:32 am (UTC)
Okay. Yeah, please don't think I'm putting them down, as I do support them. But they ARE doing something illegal, and people shouldn't lose site of that when they go on the warpath like this.
errantimpulseserrantimpulses on August 7th, 2007 12:17 pm (UTC)
sight! I can spell.
Grygongrygon on August 7th, 2007 05:07 am (UTC)
So suddenly you're better than me cause you are coming down hard on grygon because grygon came down hard on freaks... yeah, makes PERFECT sense. You're no better.
errantimpulseserrantimpulses on August 7th, 2007 11:35 am (UTC)
Yes. The entire point of my post is to prove that I'm better than you. ::eyeroll::
Grygongrygon on August 7th, 2007 07:08 pm (UTC)
The way you're going around all "I was DEFENDING her!" makes it seem like you think you're better. I was defending ZOMGFTA.
errantimpulseserrantimpulses on August 7th, 2007 11:39 am (UTC)
Oh shit. It's really depressing that we're the same age, too. I was hoping you were at least ten years younger to be acting this bratty.
Grygongrygon on August 7th, 2007 07:08 pm (UTC)
yeah, that's mature. more name-calling. i figured you were at least 13 to use such immature names.
Grygongrygon on August 7th, 2007 05:12 am (UTC)
...and where exactly did I "demand" an apology? I posted no such thing, and just checked the other thread to be sure. Freak is making an apology OF HER OWN DECISION.
Grygongrygon on August 7th, 2007 05:05 am (UTC)
Just because I hated to see a good parody stolen and posted does not mean I do not buy the manga. I download scanlations up-to-date but I also have already bought vols 1-13 and will buy vol 14 when it's released this month.

If you really think that ONE stolen parody would make so many people who "only download" suddenly get up the nerve/guilt to go buy the manga you are sorely mistaken.

So yeah, keep calling me an asshole but you don't see me name-calling. But you just might see this thread deleted as well for being a flamer.
errantimpulseserrantimpulses on August 7th, 2007 11:38 am (UTC)
No, I see you acting like an asshole, threatening to tattle to people who are already breaking copyright laws as it is.

You don't need to name-call to act like a jerk, name-calling is just a easier way to realize someone's doing it, but it doesn't mean you're not doing it.

Any like I really care if this thread is deleted. In fact, I hope it is, because this apology shouldn't be here.
Grygongrygon on August 7th, 2007 07:10 pm (UTC)
It doesn't matter if what ZOMGFTA is doing is illegal. Freaks still STOLE something.

So, let's do a tally now- I'm an asshole, jerk, and brat.

YOU still haven't shown me where I "demanded" an apology. Hmm, wonder why that is.
Rebeka Webbfreaks_freecss on August 10th, 2007 01:37 am (UTC)
i must say grygon, i continue to find you an endless source of amusement. you said in your profile you "hate narrow-minded biggots"

ever hear of "pot caling the kettle black" mein liebchen?
Grygongrygon on August 11th, 2007 06:03 am (UTC)
are you still on this? let. it. go. already. you really thrive on negative attention. go do some fan art of YOUR OWN and post it, then you'll get positive attention.

Rebeka Webbfreaks_freecss on August 11th, 2007 08:13 am (UTC)
for someone who's "watching my page" to make sure i don't "steal any more copyright" you obviously havn't looked close enough. i have done fanart of my own, 34 pieces of fanart to be precise, and if we want to get on to the subject of "negative attention" who's the one who's running around and bitching on two different websites and picking fights with people? i see only one attention seesker heer
errantimpulseserrantimpulses on August 7th, 2007 12:16 pm (UTC)
If you really think that ONE stolen parody would make so many people who "only download" suddenly get up the nerve/guilt to go buy the manga you are sorely mistaken.

This makes no sense to me, and I have no idea what you're trying to say by it.
Grygongrygon on August 7th, 2007 07:16 pm (UTC)
Ofcourse you wouldn't. For no matter how many names you got stored away in your puny brain to call people, you really are daft aren't you?

You said "Thanks to them, some people who might contribute money to manga artists* by buying the books don't actually buy the books...."

to which I replied

"If you really think that ONE stolen parody would make so many people who "only download" suddenly get up the nerve/guilt to go buy the manga you are sorely mistaken."

and since you seem to need a detailed break-down of what this means to wrap your skull around it:

No. One stolen parody omake, aka the piece that Freaks posted here, will not magically cause people who download the manga to suddenly feel bad about downloading it and go to a store to also buy it.

Frankly... I don't know how much more clear I can be. If your head is still hurting, just take an aspirin and go stare at the boob tube some more.
Rebeka Webbfreaks_freecss on August 10th, 2007 01:17 am (UTC)
sorry mein liebchen, but you ARE being quite childish about this whole situation. i can understan you're being ticked off but let's be realistic, was ther actually a need to go onto my deviantart page and flame me there? and tag me to check all me artwork so that you could make sure i "wasn't going to steal any more copyright?" i've fully explained myself, fuck it i've evn scanned the manga so you can see it http://pics.livejournal.com/freaks_freecss/pic/00001ks9/g1
i feel like a stuck record, i have to repeat myself over and over to you: the fic was inspired by chapter 4 of ridiculicious's fanfic "karaoke chaos" in this chapter scar was walking across the desert with his face covered in bandages then he rips them off his face, throws them over his shoulder and starts singing "i will survive"

and yes, although i did post this appology post up of my own decision, not that it seem to have made any diffetence to you: i've appologised to everyone on both the lj and d.a. threads, i've removed the deviantation, i'v posted a formal appology to my d.a. p[age AND publically to both fullmetal alchemist communitys and i've sent a letter to ZOMGFTA appologising to the mixup. i've added a scan of my manga for proof of it's existance, although i doubt it will make a difference as you seem to be able to find fault with EVERY single move i make. go ahead and stalk me on the internet if you want, infact, here's all my addresses:

http://www.tokyopop.com/KawaiiNoir
http://www.fanfiction.net/ArsenicCandy
http://www.PrincSessOfPoison.deviantart.com

stalk me all you want, but all your going to find is lolita fanart and angsty fics
Rebeka Webbfreaks_freecss on August 10th, 2007 01:26 am (UTC)
thanks liebchen

i'm earthly serious about this tho': i would never have posted this up if i hadn't beleived that it was an original piece,it was inspired by chapter 4 of ridiculicious's fanfic "karaoke chaos" in this chapter scar was walking across the desert with his face covered in bandages then he rips them off his face, throws them over his shoulder and starts singing "i will survive" when i read through the maga given to me by my friend the fic was inspired by chapter 4 of ridiculicious's fanfic "karaoke chaos" in this chapter scar was walking across the desert with his face covered in bandages then he rips them off his face, throws them over his shoulder and starts singing "i will survive"
when i read the manga given to me as a friend on her return from hong-kong http://pics.livejournal.com/freaks_freecss/pic/00001ks9/g1

i saw this scene and said "OMFG!! that's the exact same as in the fic!!" that's the only reason i did this and had i known that it was already udsed idea i would never have posted it. as for grygon, s/he can stalk my d.a. page all s/he wants, but all s/he's gonna find is fanart and random diarty babbles

here's my post on d.a. (including all comments)

http://princsessofpoison.deviantart.com/journal/14046557/#comments