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06 August 2007 @ 03:55 pm
requesting recs  
I'm on a quest to write the mother of all Roy-centric-life-story-so-far fics and I need help. (Obviously in more ways than one, considering that I'm making such an attempt.)

I would:
+ really appreciate any fic recs that you think shows depth to Roy's character,
+ like to invite any opinions or discussions on any aspect of Roy's character,
+ like to inquire as to whether you have a song that really reminds you of Roy.

Thanks in advance :3
(cross-posted at hagaren_manga)
 
 
sevlowsevlow on August 6th, 2007 09:07 pm (UTC)
Two songs that really remind me of Roy are:

"Burn Me Up" by Oingo Boingo

and

"Zombie" by The Cranberries

Hope that helps!
( spamdog )sundialing on August 7th, 2007 04:09 am (UTC)
Thank you! I'll find those and give 'em a try :3
Hewene: sleepy edsayhello on August 7th, 2007 04:15 am (UTC)
+ really appreciate any fic recs that you think shows depth to Roy's character

If you can handle SERIOUS Dark fic, then Sevlow's Forgiveness shows all SORTS of depths to Roy's character. I really love it.

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3479655/1/Forgiveness
( spamdog ): [なると] that's almost as good as sanchosundialing on August 7th, 2007 04:21 am (UTC)
Lovely, thank you for the rec ♥ y u no say so, sevlow?!
sevlowsevlow on August 7th, 2007 05:01 pm (UTC)
*blushes and shrugs*

I also have Breaking Point, (it's even DARKER than Forgiveness, just so you know...) which kinda deals with his friendship/intimacy issues and needing to distance himself from everyone for fear of looking weak... The fic is probably more about Hughes than Mustang, but there is some character-in-depthy goodness on him, too.

Again, hope it helps <3
kashicatkashicat on August 8th, 2007 12:03 am (UTC)
Oh yes, that's also a spectacular story!
( spamdog ): [FMA] gossip gut the goofssundialing on August 10th, 2007 03:27 am (UTC)
*wibbles* THAT HURT D: in a good way but still... ANGST.
sevlowsevlow on August 10th, 2007 04:19 am (UTC)
...sorry...

hehehe...
kashicatkashicat on August 6th, 2007 11:00 pm (UTC)
I've got a gazillion opinions about all aspects of Roy's character (which is why I only write Roycentric fics so far, myself).

Where d'ya want to start? ;-)
( spamdog ): [FMA] a facepalm might worksundialing on August 7th, 2007 04:11 am (UTC)
Omg like everything? What was his childhood like, what were his parents like, why do you think he had such a deep friendship with Hughes and where does his immediate protection for the Elric brothers stem from... Auugh, everything, plzthnx. The more I think about him, the more complex a character he turns out to be >_o
mfelizandymfelizandy on August 7th, 2007 07:27 am (UTC)
Roy's childhood?
I'm a bit of a drooling Roy fangirl myself. I invented a bit of a backstory for him, because I'm playing an IM RP with a buddy of mine and I needed Roy's mama to make an appearance. Feel free to use any of the following ramble, or none of it, as suits you, but if you do use it, I'd appreciate a little credit blurb saying what you borrowed from me, and a note with a link to whatever you write.

In my version of canon, Roy is half Xingese. His mother was born in a small town on the northwestern corner of Xing. She was the daughter of a relatively well-to-do clothing merchant, and her parents had arranged to marry her off to one of the local minor nobles. Things didn't work out that way, however. Just beyond the northern borders of Xing lie the steppes of the Utar clans. The Utars are nomadic sheep and horse herders who usually leave their more settled neighbors alone. Every now and then, though, the young men of a clan decide that instead of going through the usual Utar courtship rituals, they'll just ride into the nearest village or town and kidnap some women. Roy Mustang's mother was scooped up and thrown on the back of an Utar horse and carried off.

The young Utar who kidnapped a fifteen-year-old Xingese renamed her Koliya, and tried to treat her as his wife instead of his captive. She settled down after a while, and became a very good Utar wife. She bore a son when she was around seventeen, but because Utars have a strict set of rules regarding clan membership, her baby boy wasn't named as a member of the clan. Born Xingese, Roy's mother had no clan affiliation. Like all children in his situation, Roy was described as a "son of a wild horse".

Koliya's family didn't give up on her, though. It took them a long time to save the money to hire mercenaries, and even longer to track down the wandering nomads who'd kidnapped their daughter, but when they did, they all but wiped out the entire camp. Koliya and her son, who at the time was about four, were taken to Xing.

Koliya's arranged marriage, of course, never happened. Roy's existence was clear evidence that the would-be bride was no longer a virgin, and Koliya had decided she liked being an Utar woman. She kept her Utar name and refused to follow the Xingese customs that might have won her a lower-status but still respectable husband. Her exasperated parents finally shipped her and her seven-year-old boy off to be trained as servants. Koliya wasn't at all happy about that, so she ran off. She first headed back into Utar territory. She didn't find much of a welcome. What remained of her camp had dispersed to live with other relatives, and no clan wanted to take in a non-Utar and her half-Utar child.

With nowhere else to go, Koliya "liberated" some Utar horses and sheep and headed west. Roy vaguely remembers the trip across the Great Desert, and keenly recalls the teasing he endured as a boy who spoke no Amestrian when he first arrived in the country. His exotic face, slight build, and heavy accent earned him a lot of childhood scorn. In self-defense, he learned to play the bullies off against each other, and how to tell the difference between a true ally and fairweather friend. His mother, being Utar in her outlook, first worked at various menial jobs, but never gave up her horses and sheep. The yarn, carpets, blankets, and clothing made from the wool of those sheep eventually bought a house on the outskirts of a nondescript village on the eastern border of Amestris. On his school records, Roy's last name became "Mustang".

Roy discovered alchemy when he was fourteen. That was the year his mother sent him to a boarding school in the nearest good-sized town--the local village school didn't go past the eighth grade or so. Roy's first attempts at transmutation resulted in broken windows and a kitchen flood. He was apprenticed to an alchemist, who tutored him--until he finished his schooling. At that point Roy went off on his own to find a master alchemist. He found the father of Riza Hawkeye, and after much persistence, persuaded him to take Mustang on as his student. The rest is canon.
mfelizandymfelizandy on August 7th, 2007 07:28 am (UTC)
Re: Roy's childhood?
Addendum--the character limit caught me.

Roy's exotic looks became an asset to him around age twelve. At first he wasn't quite sure why the girls were suddenly giggling every time he so much as glanced their way, but he caught on soon enough. As an adult, he's well aware of the attention he can draw from women. He's not really as randy as his reputation would have one believe--he simply uses everything at his disposal in pursuit of his goal. He lets his hair grow long enough to hang in his eyes because an awful lot of women just love brushing his bangs out of his face. Just whose bed he's shared is a matter of much speculation and the subject of some bets among his subordinates, but Roy isn't easy to pin down on the subject. It's quite possible that not even Maes Hughes knows which of Roy's conquests are fictional and which aren't.

Flame alchemy is rare, partially because it relies on an outside ignition, and partially because it demands both extremely delicate control and the strength of an elephant to control the concentration of gases in an open atmosphere. Roy has even mastered the technique of splitting water into hydrogen and oxygen--which means that in a pinch, he could save himself from drowning using alchemy to liberate oxygen to breathe.

Hey, when did it get to be 3 AM?
( spamdog ): [FMA] sparkly weak spotssundialing on August 7th, 2007 09:34 am (UTC)
Re: Roy's childhood?
Well you see, I think Ed is my favorite character of the series, closely followed by Olivier, so I don't know why I'm writing Roy-fic, but there you have it. I won't use your RP storyline or anything, but this brings up interesting points!

I've read fics where Roy is partially Xingese, but that makes me wonder about Izumi, because she has similar features. Izumi has a (presumably) Eastern name, while Roy doesn't, so either Roy is purely Amestrian or his Amestrian parent had a heavier hand in naming him...?

I'm hesitant to think that Roy had an especially strong relationship with either of his parents, nor an especially weak one. He seems much more angry than sympathetic towards the Elrics when he first meets them, and only at Hughes' funeral says that he understands a little of what the boys must have felt. To me that implies that his relationship with his parents must have been average, but there, as he doesn't seem to convey much angst over it. I think maybe that's something about the Elrics that fascinates him, that they went so far as human transmutation for their mother.

And I'd have to agree with boarding school seeming as the best place to get an education. I don't remember what chapter it is, but Roy says he came from the rural west, and I'd imagine alchemy being scarcer there than in West City or something.

Fire alchemy does seem rare, but I think for the lack of knowledge. If it wasn't super-top-sekrit, I don't see how Riza would put up with her flake father tattooing the information on her back. Poor Riza T_T
( spamdog ): [Bleach] u + me = calculussundialing on August 7th, 2007 04:23 am (UTC)
I can't seem to locate your fics though.. Link me please? ^^;
kashicatkashicat on August 8th, 2007 12:00 am (UTC)
I think you were asking me for the link? It's a bit hard to tell for sure, the way the posts are lining up here.

Just in case. :-)

Here are my fics, on Fanfiction.net. (With apologies for still not having corrected the coding errors in chapter 2 of "The Ally"!! (That fic is actually a Maes/Gracia fic, but it revolves around Roy's character, so...it's still a Roy fic. Heehee!)
Cynthia: Roycsakuras on August 7th, 2007 05:23 am (UTC)
...Read the manga? XD The Ishbal arc (Volume 15) specifically shows depth to his character and some of his history. Even if you're writing for anime canon, I think it could be helpful considering it's what the original author came up for him.
( spamdog ): [PotC] the missing puzzle piecesundialing on August 7th, 2007 05:36 am (UTC)
I have volume 15 right next to me, in fact XD I download the raws and get the volumes anytime I pass a Japanese bookseller, so my reading the manga is not the issue ^^;

I'm not saying I don't have my own interpretations but that I'd appreciate hearing others', as I don't exactly have anyone around to ponder the details with. Things like what Roy's childhood, or academy days, might've been like, to lead up to his pre-Ishbal idealism and friendship with Hughes and etcetra are some of the topics I meant.
Kat ♫ Auste: Don't believe what Roy saysaustere_flare on August 7th, 2007 08:51 am (UTC)
Iris - Goo Goo Dolls
Revolution - Beatles
I Believe I Can Fly - R. Kelly
Rewrite - Asian Kung-Fu Generation (it doesn't apply only to Ed, apparently)
A Song of Storm and Fire, 1 & 0 City, When Two Powers Collide & I Talk to the Rain - composed by Kajiura Yuki
Saya's Victory & The Red Shield - composed by Mark Mancina

I'll give you a link to a story I'm currently writing on FF.net, if you want. It's called "You've Got a Long Way to Go", and it starts with Roy's childhood and will end with his State Alchemist exam. It's anime+manga. In the latest chapter, Roy is still 11, awaiting the day he turns 13 and enters apprenticeship to his alchemy teacher. But already he is exhibiting great alchemical skill...and a fascination for fire.

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3640514/1/

But basically, I see Roy as a man with many sides, many facades. At first glance, people may see him as a manipulative bastard who loves being in control and having the power, who shoots for huge ambitions and likes hearing himself talk. Women are attracted to him, many people are intimidated by his ways, the rest simply admire and even follow him.

However, behind that confident smirk and the bravado is a big heart and a soul seeking atonement. Roy simply hides his true intentions - to become Fuhrer not for the power or prestige (though those are nice bonuses) but to serve the country and change how it's run, and to hopefully make up for the destruction he has caused as a soldier of war. Outside it may seem that he doesn't care about anyone or anything else, but he does - his best friend Maes Hughes, the Elric brothers, his subordinates *cough*RIZAHAWKEYE*cough*, etc. A lot of people just don't see past his tough shell.
kashicatkashicat on August 7th, 2007 11:52 pm (UTC)
I have a very similar view of Roy, myself.

I tend to feel that he began as a sensitive soul, and was damaged terribly by what he was forced to do in the war. And from then on, he blames himself for all the bad things that happens around him, and needs to atone for them somehow.

So I think he built a protective shell around himself -- partly to protect himself from further pain, but also to protect the others around him. Who still seem to come to harm anyway (e.g. Hughes). So he accumulates self-blame.
kashicatkashicat on August 7th, 2007 11:47 pm (UTC)
I just thought of a YouTube video that really encapsulates Roy, for me.

I don't know how to get YT videos to embed into a post, so here's the link: Video of "Hurt".
kashicatkashicat on August 8th, 2007 12:10 am (UTC)
Another marvelous story with a view of Roy's character, from the POV of Maes Hughes: ...And Ever Widening Slowly Silence All, by Heathenesque or, on LJ, fractured_chaos.