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10 May 2007 @ 04:13 pm
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I have a question connected with FMA the movie: Conqueror of Shamballa:


Why does Al have transmutation circles on his gloves, even though he remembers the Gate?
 
 
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Barb: Alphonse - Just an Ordinary Dayid_anonymous on May 12th, 2007 04:22 am (UTC)
Anime!Al couldn't do alchemy without drawing a circle because of the fact he couldn't remember the Gate. According to my understanding of the plot, it's necessary to remember the information passed to you through the gate in order to perform a transmutation without a circle.

Now if you *really* want a plothole, answer me this: Why can the elder Tringham perform alchemy without a circle? XD!
Ketitaketita on May 14th, 2007 02:58 pm (UTC)
*sigh* see, when you post when you're really tired and it's late in your time zone, then you do silly things. Trust me to pick one of the plot points in the series that actually isn't a plothole. I do know better.
I goofed. Please let me live it down?

(and, btw, if the memories cannot be transferred from the soul to the mind, then how come when Al first woke up in the armor he didn't lose his memories? If the data isn't transferred, then it makes sense that it would be both ways...)
And I'm not even asking about Russel.
Starlight Dreamer: EdwardxAlphonse - Truthstarlitedreamsx on May 15th, 2007 01:20 am (UTC)
(is id_anonymous)

I'm relatively certain that whether or not memories can be transferred from the soul to the mind isn't something covered in the anime much, though I'm pretty sure it's touched on in the manga. It's been so long since I read the manga so I don't remember for certain the details.

If you're talking about why Al doesn't remember when he gets his human form back, that answer is simple. For all intents and purposes, the 4 years of journeying didn't happen for Alphonse, though they actually did: if that makes sense. Al's memories of the journey were taken by the gate as payment for Ed's sacrifice to return him to his original body. They only return to him when he passes through the gate with his brother, because he's making some sort of sacrifice. *shrugs* It's not the best or most clearly explained theory, though. I still personally think it would have been best if they left the gate alone, as just some energy source or perhaps a form of 'God' like in the manga. *shrugs again*

And yeah, before this gets any longer or rambly or makes even less sense, ending now! XD;
Ketita: winryketita on May 15th, 2007 05:25 am (UTC)
Actually, I always thought that in the anime the reason Al didn't remember anything was because his body was in a sort of stasis inside the Gate, and when Ed pulled him out, it was simply the same Al from way back then. Not that he had actually traded his memories, but that the memory loss was a by product of the fact that he was returned to his original body. I was looking for the reasonable answer that made sense with the plot. Sorry...
Going by that, it basically means that Al's soul was pretty much completely disconnected from his body, and that the memories he gained while he was a soul just got lost when he got his body back.
However, all this is shot to hell when he randomly gets the memories back when he goes through the gate. he's lying. he didn't REALLY get them back >:D
If my theory had been correct, however, it means I guess that when Al first became the armor, he should have lost every single one of his memories of being human.

I think that having the Gate trade limbs is one thing, but memories are just a bunch of electrical impulses! (Though, I'm influenced by the manga I guess, where it's pretty much "give something physical [limbs] get back something spiritual [knowledge] in return. We haven't yet seen it possible to give something like memories and get back anything) What would the Gatelings do with that? Ed and Al might as well have traded a bunch of batteries for their bodies...

and another random question, while we're at it- Why did Eckhart, who went through the Gate once, gain Super Speshul Awesome Powers, and Ed, who went through about five times, didn't?
and rambly = <3
Starlight Dreamer: Edward - Faithstarlitedreamsx on May 15th, 2007 01:59 pm (UTC)
*yawn* Either way, I'm too tired to theorize today. Besides the fact it's somewhat pointless in the long run as it's just a story. I guess we can leave the memory loss as a minor plothole (minor because there's explanation, but it doesn't make much sense and is explained poorly) and decide that Arakawa makes more sense when writing plots than BONES. ;)