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10 May 2007 @ 04:13 pm
I have a question connected with FMA the movie: Conqueror of Shamballa:

Why does Al have transmutation circles on his gloves, even though he remembers the Gate?
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hiryuu on May 10th, 2007 09:09 pm (UTC)
ooh, yes. Arakawa-sensei is a bloody genius like. she really knows how to make a world and tell its story. i read in an FMA fanfic somewhere... Ed yelled something about "magic" just being a term for something that science hadn't figured out yet.
i've heard that a lot of the anime stuff has had to pass through her and get approval... i guess Siren just completely slipped past the defenses. (i only like that episode because there's lots of funny randomness going on... it's like crack FMA XD)

hey hey hey, Ed could take the colonel if he had the right training for it. XP Roy's got the one up 'cause his alchemy covers some major distance and is easily manipulated. i think if Ed clapped his hands and then snapped the fingers of his auto-mail, he could get a similar reaction. i wonder why he hasn't tried that yet... but yeah, he really got quite pwned in that episode. poor guy. XD
lmd_84lmd_84 on May 10th, 2007 09:44 pm (UTC)
Yes, if Ed had the training, he'd be a better challenge to Mustang. The funny thing for me was that he seriously thought he could get away with punching the guy. And Roy, to put it crudely, pwned him, because Ed got to cocky and it quite literally blew up in his face. Mustang's disadvantage is that his ability works so well in combat only within a certain distance, so that it appears to be his only trick. Ed is far more versatile with his alchemy, and has his martial arts too.

I think Ed would need to learn a whole different method of alchemy to transmute gases the way Mustang does, because its about a lot more then creating a spark and knowing the right array. I think it is something which takes a lot of practice, as Ed would be dealing with a state of matter we haven't seen him use up until this point. He's definitely used earth and water, but I can't recall him transmuting either fire or air. (Oh, neat elemental parallels, yay.)

I'd disagree with that fic comment of Ed's. It's very in-character for Ed (who has trouble seeing beyond the neat little box of science), but I really don't think 'magic' works like that. (Cue for my alchemy/magic rambling. Feel free to ignore, I'm just bashing out some ideas because your mention of magic intrigues me....)

Things that were once thought supernatural have since been explained with science (look at how people used to explain lightening, or the seasons), but from a fantasy point of view, I think magic is about something far more metaphysical , something which is by definition beyond the natural, material world.

The distinction, I think, is that what is magical is not what has the potential to be explained by rational science (which would likely be Ed's argument for...pretty much everything, despite the fact he's seen the Gate and should know better), but what cannot be explained by it and its ideas of empirical evidence.

This would include the Gate (not termed 'magical', but definitely not scientific) as a concept and a reality - the fact it cannot as a whole be grasped by human intellect is what shifts the nature of alchemy from the purely and concrete physical (as the Elrics once thought 'equivalent exchange' to be) to some quasi-scientific/magical borderline. Some people might say that in doing this Arakawa has made something a bit pithy, a bit of a sloppy premise. But I think that ambiguity about her notion of 'alchemy' is what makes the concept so great. In a series which is basically fantasy action/adventure, I just adore it.

I have had for months this crack-fanfiction idea for FMA, exploring what sort of magic and supernatural things would exist in a world with an 'ultimate science' like alchemy.
- End rambling.
c_b_syndromec_b_syndrome on May 11th, 2007 02:01 am (UTC)
I have had for months this crack-fanfiction idea for FMA, exploring what sort of magic and supernatural things would exist in a world with an 'ultimate science' like alchemy.

Do it! I'd LOVE to read it!
lmd_84lmd_84 on May 11th, 2007 01:21 pm (UTC)
It's very much in the planning stages, but I'm very glad to hear you'd be interested. I was thinking the whole premise would be too 'crack' to be worth taking too far, but I've just fallen for the idea regardless. To my mind, the possibility just seems so right, if undeniably odd.