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07 October 2006 @ 02:37 pm
What's up with fandom wars?  
I will not ask anyone to stop doing anything at all, because I'm pretty sure no one will. I won't do it either because that's a lack of respect. In my position, I have no right to go around telling people to shut up or stop acting like themselves. No one has that right unless they're our parents. xD

But I just felt the need to say this.

Looking at all those posts bashing and bitching other people in the FMA fan-dom makes me want to ask: Why?
It doesn't annoy me, it doesn't make me mad, it just... puzzles me.
Seriously, it makes no sense. And the people who read this, and take it personally, it's just as puzzling. I just don't get it.

Can someone tell me what's the use of all the bashing?

If something annoys people so much, then why instead of just ignoring it like a reasonable human being they go around trying to change it in an ineffective way?

Annoyance is no reason to be rude to other people, that's what I think. If the comments of RoyEd fan-girls annoy you then don't read them. They won't kill you.

And it's just interesting how some people who read the bashing commentaries get defensive. Why is that?
If someone makes comments in a really rude way then you should already know that it's not worth it to listen to them.

That's how the fan-wars start and they're just... hilarious. It's senseless. Someone bashes, the person who's bashed then strikes back, more people join and it goes on. How can a "war" be started by FANS? I thought we already had ONE thing in common. I thought it was enough for all of us to get along well. It's puzzling.

What would you do if it was the real world then? The way it's looking it's as if you hated each other.

Thanks for your attention.

The following link is redirected to the community that motivated me to put this up.
It's relative whether you get offended or not. Just try not to make a chain-effect.
http://community.livejournal.com/fma_fanwars/
 
 
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homestuck: faildonkey on October 7th, 2006 10:14 pm (UTC)
there is one sentence that sums the reson up:

the internet is serious fucking business.

it annoys me too D:
homestuck: pwntdonkey on October 7th, 2006 10:16 pm (UTC)
*reason, lul.
josefphe on October 7th, 2006 10:33 pm (UTC)
I am all for fanwars-- who else is gonna cleanse the fandom of NOOBS if we don't?!
arhenaarhena on October 8th, 2006 01:27 am (UTC)
I dunno... no offense, but I don't think that the people that make parts of fanwars (regardless of what side they are) aren't all that different.
And you know, people who bash don't ALL share the same type of interests. Two wankers may bash RoyEd but one is all for RoyxMaes and the other one all against it. Get my point? It's not that easy. \
So what do you mean when you say "cleanse"?
Kasumi Lovegood: chap62kasumicc on October 7th, 2006 10:40 pm (UTC)
The thing that all of us like the same series, isn't enough to guarantee that we'll get along well o.o

Bashing is inevitable inside a fandom. Some manga fans bash the anime, some yaoi fans bash het pairings, some sub fans bash the dub...and come on, it's a little naive to expect that the bashed-thing fans won't answer o.o Even if it's in a polite way. I do it xD

That community was specifically created to bash without worrying about replies xD If you have something to say, you can.
Because bashing in open forums is a real problem. Myself, I've fought a lot with other FMA fans. Defending points of view and all of that...

I'd love to have a fandom where everybody gets along well :D But it's like asking the impossible o.o
Meg: Lucifer: Column of Firemegkips on October 7th, 2006 10:53 pm (UTC)
I'd love to have a fandom where everybody gets along well :D But it's like asking the impossible o.o

Very teeny-tiny fandoms tend to be pretty calm. I know the Lucifer fandom is small and free of wank.

I'll also agree with you that bashing is inevitable within most fandoms, especially in very popular ones, especially anime/eastern comics.
havocmangawip: angsthorhavocmangawip on October 7th, 2006 10:44 pm (UTC)
The Fanwars site is mostly Humorous... Kind of like "shipwars".

It's not supposed to make sense and it's not done IN seriousness. IN FACT it's MAKING FUN of the WANKYNESS on communities like this.

IT IS A CARTOON and a COMIC BOOK. A GREAT one to be sure, but it's NOT REAL.

No one is gonna die because of FMA... that would be amusing and one for the Darwin Awards.

Most of the pairings that get people riled up aren't CANON. OR even HINTED at in Canon.

Please all be writing high quality stuff and getting people smexxed up. Thank you. In-Character Characters getting smexxed up is hot. Ship Bashing and fanpoodle-ism? NOT so much. It makes me giggle and write/read more smut. The odd and squicky pairings? WRITE what you LIKE! SHARE it, perhaps someone will be happy to see it, or at least amused that someone's imagination was OUT THERE enough to WRITE the piece. (OOOH, imagination it's so DANGEROUS.)

Every time someone non-cons Havoc, I write a fluffy het scene.

Thank you, that is all.

Sorry, not done with the Soap Box:
OH, and people who have TOOO much time on their hands? Please join a club in the real world, or something. Or get a part time job, or I dunno, volunteer?

Fandom isn't so very serious when you are out having a life.
arhenaarhena on October 8th, 2006 01:20 am (UTC)
"OH, and people who have TOOO much time on their hands? Please join a club in the real world, or something. Or get a part time job, or I dunno, volunteer?

Fandom isn't so very serious when you are out having a life."

I agree. Just don't let it take over your life... that's what I think.
Fandom won't get you a job, pass all your classes, feed a family, most likely won't give you a family for that matter, if it makes you happy... try other things, believe me, it'll make you so much happier. >> (cheesy crap... damn)
Kyra: [DWB] :|reikah on October 7th, 2006 10:57 pm (UTC)
I, for one, get off on oppressing people in this fandom all the time. There's nothing warms the cockles of my black little heart more than a plaintive whine of 'you elitist bitch!' because hey, you can't please everyone.

Just FYI, though, I especially enjoy oppressing the folk of fm_alchemist, so if anybody uses this rant as an excuse to flame, bitch, bash or otherwise piss me or the other mods off, we will lock threads and give you your first strike warning out of three. Just sayin'.
Marikaitou_marina on October 8th, 2006 12:51 am (UTC)
I'm calling off-topic, actually. This rant has nothing to do with FMA itself and sounds more like something that belongs in a personal LJ to me. What do you think? We need a third opinion?
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Küchenhexe (formerly Zanne Chaos): Ed - what the hell NOW fandom?kuchenhexe on October 7th, 2006 11:39 pm (UTC)
...

I only have one thing to say:




(icon made by me for my JF acct; quote is from a Fandom Wank website; bunny image drawn by Randy Milholland for Something Positive.)
whisperitlikeit’sasecret。: dude shut updusk on October 8th, 2006 12:25 am (UTC)
You do realize this post is just going to cause more wank, right?
ficandthemaiden on October 8th, 2006 12:41 am (UTC)
Yeah, really. I can see being upset about the wank, but I'm not sure that bringing the wank back here was a particularly helpful thing to do.
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arhenaarhena on October 8th, 2006 01:21 am (UTC)
Okay, I get it. Thank you for clearing that up for me. ^^ But that there's a comm like this (and people who are responsible enough to post on it and not on other major comms) doesn't mean that EVERYONE who bashes it doesn't get on other people's faces (or something like that) and scream "Just STFU! AS*****".
Just looking at the comments and how people get worked up over small things amuses me.
[★i slipped on my slippers]: Jean // Damn...ceasefire on October 8th, 2006 01:19 am (UTC)
Fanwars happen because people are stupid.

fma_fanwars, as far as I know, was made partly as a joke and has actually caused less drama than this comm. :D
koulover on October 8th, 2006 02:07 am (UTC)
I personally find that comm funny AND true as hell. It's their right to whine about fangirls.They started it, anyway

And I don't think this post will lead into a wank. Like, it'd be totally stupid to wank over a post which complains about wanks...But again, people are stupid.
Kalika Maxwellkalikamaxwell on October 8th, 2006 04:42 am (UTC)
Oh gosh! It never occured to me we could like *not* fight and wank until you told us!!! I bet it would work if we told the world leaders to stop having wars too!!!

Would you like to post a post saying the sky is blue, while you're at it? I'm sure nobody knows that one either.



Grygongrygon on October 8th, 2006 04:57 am (UTC)
Fanwars confuse me too. As well as dubwars. I mean jeez, when I posted my "Rangers vs Skirts" image here did ONE person comment on the art itself? Yes, ONE. Out of about 15 people who replied with flames that I dare post a "dubwar" image (it wasn't, imo) here. Oh noz. The most outspoken of those flaming me was a moderator, who only deleted it after making his or her point ground in like dirt on a fresh wound.

So, needless to say, I tread VERY VERY VERY lightly when posting things here now. God forbid I accidentally bring up the voice actors for FMA and piss another dozen people off.
Hime D. ~創世の錬金術師~: Ed - Adulthime1999 on October 8th, 2006 06:29 am (UTC)
No, really. Because, you know, your artpost is whole lot more important than the mod doing their job and trying to keep the peace in the comm.
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mikkeneko on October 8th, 2006 08:18 am (UTC)
Bitching, bashing, flame wars, and all the other associated paraphernalia is far from unique to the FMA fandom; to a greater or a lesser degree, these things accompany every fandom, western or eastern, show or book or anime, that develops a community surrounding it. Such things tend to inevitably happen because people become very emotionally invested in the experience, and inclined to defend their views vigorously. Combined with a setting on the Internet that allows freeform speech and relative anonymity, and you have the potential for all sorts of conflicts.
No One Can Stop the Cricket Pimps: FMA envy made by medomlandbubbles on October 8th, 2006 11:21 am (UTC)
Screws fall out all the time.

The world is an imperfect place.
Lady Cyon: Ed/Dantewofl_iron on October 8th, 2006 01:10 pm (UTC)
hi. Mod of fma_fanwars here and I'm just popping in to tell you that the entire community is a joke, so you can rest your head about it. The comm was made after a stupid wank and a stray comment from one of my friends concerning it and basically, it's for people to have stupid fun. Kinda like cosplayfucks used to be.

Because whether you like it or not, somtimes, fandom is fucking stupid and needs to be bitched about. :p

Hope that cleared it up for you.
arhenaarhena on October 8th, 2006 11:54 pm (UTC)
Thanks for clearing that up for me. It just confused me how everyone is all mad and worked out about minimal things (in my opinion). But hell... that's their problem so I'll just ignore the bsing. It's funny at times too... fandom is weird, really weird.