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21 September 2006 @ 11:39 pm
Conqueror of Shamballa rating  
When Funimation released CoS in the theaters (for those two days--grr), it was rated PG-13 by the MPAA. But when I bought my copy of CoS last week I noticed that the rating on the back of the DVD cover is listed as TV PG. Does anyone else have the same rating on their copy of CoS?

Ordinarily, I wouldn't care. But I have three little boys that I'm training up to be FMA fans (one wanted to be Ed for Halloween), and since I'm picky about what I show them, this matters. I've only shown them a couple of episodes (like Fullmetal vs. Flame, and The House of the Waiting Family), and I'd like to show them more. So, how in Amestris did CoS get a TV PG rating?

ETA: My kids are all between 10 and 5 years old so I'm not letting them see it--that's not the problem.

I'm just wondering if anyone else's copy is marked as TVPG, and what drug FUNimation was on when they labeled it as such.
Mari: Worlds Apart - safire_graficskaitou_marina on September 22nd, 2006 06:11 am (UTC)
CoS has the same level of violence as the TV series. Thus, there's blood. Actually, COPIOUS AMOUNTS of it in one scene and there are several violent scenes involving shooting, oozy monsters, monster dismemberment and city destruction. If you haven't wanted to show them the more violent episodes of the TV series (with scenes involving shooting, exploding heads, dismemberment, etc.), I don't recommend showing them the film.
Anja Ervinonee_chibi on September 22nd, 2006 11:15 am (UTC)
CoS sould have been left PG-13, because well..i remember there being alot of movies back when that was rated that JUST because of violence. I've seen the movie in Jap, It is very violent, and bloody, I don't see how they could have changed it to like PG because younger childrend SHOULDN'T be watching it, thats why full metal Alchemist is on ADULT SWIM duh.... There are some idoits out there and they really piss me off...
lord_pachi: ranfan_stancelord_pachi on September 22nd, 2006 12:23 pm (UTC)
Almost as a rule, the ratings on anime, whether on TV or DVD, are ridiculous when it is a series that lies inbetween the realms of children and mature. Fullmetal is, I guess, such a type of series. Seriously, I don't even care about the rating systems on anime. I can usually already tell just by the cover or the backside description if it's gonna be a bloody, gruesome series or not. Maybe all of the anime companies just are expecting us to approach them with that attitude? *shrugs*

But, how does it matter when you want to show stuff to those three kids? YOU know what happens in CoS - why should you let the rating tell you different? And if you buy something you haven't seen before but the rating doesn't seem right, just watch it on your own before they see it to determine if they SHOULD see it at all. This is really simple - a weird rating shouldn't matter at all.
militsamilitsa on September 22nd, 2006 01:25 pm (UTC)
I have let my 7-year-old son watch some episodes of FMA with me, but like you I pick and choose which ones, and won't let him watch any particularly intense ones. I think the movie has some violent/intense imagery that I think might make it into his dreams--so I won't let him watch it for now. I don't know how old your kids are so that's just my opinion, though.
Canadian on Strike: Alscary_lilwhitemageangathol on September 22nd, 2006 02:43 pm (UTC)
FMA often ends up in the "Kids" aisle of Wal-Mart and the like. It's common to have retailers consider all anime to be for kids.
I'm a lot'a trees.keelain on September 22nd, 2006 10:18 pm (UTC)
that's so annoying, it's be like trying to show X/1999 to a 10 year old (but then again, X has a nice label saying 16+)
Chibi Halochibihalo on September 22nd, 2006 02:56 pm (UTC)
If you're uncertain about showing them the movie then I'd hold off until you know they're ready for it. You're the parent so you know your children best. Ratings on a box shouldn't dictate what gets shown or not. TV ratings and Movie ratings sometimes don't mesh. What can be PG-13 in the theaters will get a TVPG rating when it shows on TV for things like language and violence. I think that might be the rating the show gets but then again I haven't really been following Adult Swim enough lately to see what their shows get rated. It's that issue with the stigma of an animated program being for kids, which we know this one is not. So it's really all up to you knowing your children and what they can handle. If you know they can't then maybe you expose them to other anime until they are ready and introduce them to FMA a little at time like you have been doing.
fullmetalrosefullmetalrose on September 22nd, 2006 03:39 pm (UTC)
I don't have kids and honestly I wouldn't let young children view it as it is very violent as mentioned above. I don't think it would give them nightmares but it is cartoon violence and I think kids should love cartoons as the fluffy part of childhood my case in point when I was a kid Scooby Doo was kinda scary, lol! (Yeah I'm old 42) But it is your decision I would show it to any child under 13.
Chexdragonalchemist on September 22nd, 2006 06:03 pm (UTC)
Completely off topic, but you wouldn't happen to have the original image from your icon, would you? *puppy eyes*
fullmetalrosefullmetalrose on September 22nd, 2006 09:23 pm (UTC)
I don't know which one i used ... let me find this thread.
fullmetalrosefullmetalrose on September 22nd, 2006 09:27 pm (UTC)
ok sorry I had to look up who made it which was created by: purkledragon maybe they will have the pic if not I can look to see if I do. I wish I made icons I only crop the pics when I first started on LJ but I will try to find the pic if I have it at home.

You can use it just credit the creator.
Chexdragonalchemist on September 22nd, 2006 09:29 pm (UTC)
<3 Yay, thank you~
ill_ameill_ame on September 23rd, 2006 09:30 pm (UTC)
Ooo, don't know if you've found a copy yet, but I have it. Go here!
fullmetalrosefullmetalrose on September 22nd, 2006 03:40 pm (UTC)
sorry *wouldn't show it to any child under 13.
Shieldmaiden of Encinitasmirabellawotr on September 22nd, 2006 05:16 pm (UTC)
Why don't you just rent it and preview it?
phoenix_zphoenix_z on September 22nd, 2006 05:22 pm (UTC)
Just trying to address the original question-
The MPAA ratings and the TV ratings are two different systems.
The MPAA rating applies to movies shown in theatres, and most anime never get MPAA ratings for this reason.
Here's a link about the TV ratings.

I've seen the movie, and I'm honestly not sure if it deserves a TV 14 or not. Personally I didn't think the violence was particularly intense, not nearly as much as it was in some of the anime episodes. But the movie is still something a parent should not watch *with* their young kid, but before their young kid sees it IMO. 'Parental guidance' is still the key part of 'TV PG' even though the MPAA's PG has been watered down by PG-13. I've seen too many parents treat MPAA's PG as G ever since they introduced PG-13 *eyeroll*

As for why Funi used the TV rating (and who assigned it???) over the MPAA rating, got me but it seems to be unethical since, as far as I know, the movie was not shown on TV. If they used the 'lower' rating in order to increase sales by parents thinking it's OK, that's not really acceptable.
Tofupeachi_tea on September 25th, 2006 12:11 am (UTC)
[Thinks the movie has more violence in it than the rest of the anime combined.] @_@.

I wasn't squeamish over the anime at *all*, but the Gluttony/Wrath scene in the movie actually had me covering my eyes... and I'm usually okay with gore.

Makes me wonder if they edited it somehow. \:
areku1993 on September 22nd, 2006 07:45 pm (UTC)
I showed the movie to my friend's little sister (Seven) and she was like WTFBEANS. *Runs and hides and has nightmares*
Young children viewers are not suggested. XD
c_b_syndromec_b_syndrome on September 22nd, 2006 10:55 pm (UTC)
I'm with phoenix_z on this one. I cannot think of a single logical reason why the ratings were changed for the DVD. I would like to think maybe there was a miscommunication somewhere. I -fear- that her suggestion might be the right one.

As for the comments from the rest... Each child is different. The ratings are a guideline, but in the end, the parent has to decide. My oldest daughter could have watched CoS and never batted an eye when she was five. She was quite capable of comprehending the concept of 'make-believe' when it came to what she saw on television (And I discovered this when I was watching 'Nightmare on Elm Street' late one night and found her sitting at the end of the hall watching it, when she was supposed to be asleep. I had a long talk with her about that, but the movie didn't give her nightmares, and to this day she loves the Freddy Kruger movies [she's 22 now]. Hates Hellraiser, but loves Freddy... go figure)

My son would have still had nightmares over it at 10.

The smart thing to do would be to view something first, and decide on your own if your child can handle it. Seeing something on a big screen in a theatre is also much more intense than seeing it on a small screen in your living room, as well.