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03 May 2004 @ 07:59 pm
Ishval Theory  
OK, I have this theory about Ishval. I would like to make one request, that if you comment to tell me what a goofball I am, that you do not use manga spoilers or post-30 spoilers.
Spoilers, eps 1-30. Everything in this that you haven't seen in episodes 1-30 is 100% conjecture on my part. Don't quote me. Or, do. I'm not going to tell you what to do!


Or, rather, Val suspects:

15 years ago, Cheryl (that would be Bruce's wife, Bruce would be Scar's brother, and yes, I made those names up) died. Bruce tries HT. He loses NOTHING as far as we know. We all know that someone is watching the entire country for signs of HT.
Very shortly thereafter, the war is started. By machinations, I believe. That is, I believe that the military shot a kid on purpose (making it look accidental) so that Ishval would revolt and then they could say "Oi, they started it!" while they clean 'em out.
Dr. Marco told the tale that it was a massacre. Not a war at all. And why use the incomplete philstones to launch massive attacks at the enemy who is barely armed with rifles?
Because the Ishval people hold the key to going through the Gate without paying the toll!!

Here's further evidence. Color has been rather symbolic in the show. The red water, blood, Ed's red coat... surely it's not a coincidence that Ishval are characterized by red eyes.
Bruce, when he first tries HT, he is upset about the results but he doesn't seem like he's lost anything. The only thing we don't see of Bruce in the tattooed scene is, well, I'd like to not think he lost THAT. o_O Sure, he's insane, but he had to be insane in the first place to not only use alchemy which is against his religion but to use it for human transmutation, which is against EVERYBODY'S belief system. So, based on the evidence at hand, he didn't lose anything.

So, the military now knows about this, because someone there is keeping close tabs on anyone who HTs. (That's my theory, again, but it's pretty solid.) They find out a guy HTd without paying. That means that Ishval can have the ultimate power of alchemy. Which means the ultimate power in the world. Which is not something the military is keen on. But if every single person in Ishval can gain ultimate alchemy power, then they're going to have to be eliminated.
Remember when Scar was first saved by jii-san and Rick, he was very surprised there were so many survivors of the massacre. And what happens? The military (under Sloth's direction!) comes in and tries to wipe 'em out again! And now, Mr. Weaselly-mine-guy, he tells Sloth that there are Ishval people there, and now they send Roy out under the guise of capturing Scar!
Seems a lot of trouble to waste on a few refugees, don't it.

Hope I made sense. Don't hit me too hard ^_^;;
 
 
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We are all fuzzy robots.makaioh on May 3rd, 2004 06:13 pm (UTC)
That is the alternate theory in case this one all falls apart ;)
goat_sangoat_san on May 3rd, 2004 06:31 pm (UTC)
to me, it looked like he lost his sanity
We are all fuzzy robots.makaioh on May 4th, 2004 05:46 am (UTC)
Yeah my theory sorta falls apart if that's true. But I'm basing it on the assumption that he lost his sanity *prior* to going through the gate.
sammywhammy on May 3rd, 2004 06:48 pm (UTC)
Uuuuuh, I'm pretty sure he lost his crotch, sorry. :X They show him clothed after he attempted human transmutation with blood all over his groin area and then naked with a big scar down there sooo... Yeah. :x
evilmooglequeenevilmooglequeen on May 3rd, 2004 06:53 pm (UTC)
and Ed complains about losing just an arm and leg... XD
bloody mary on the rocks: ed coffeejunemermaid on May 3rd, 2004 08:25 pm (UTC)
Man, I have to wonder, can they make automail to replace that too? O_o
We are all fuzzy robots.makaioh on May 4th, 2004 05:48 am (UTC)
Yeah I thought that for awhile, but then I changed my mind. Of course, my mind could be corrupted from bad yaoi censorship so that I see 'things' that aren't there and just assume it was censored ^_^;;
Vortexprojectvortex on May 3rd, 2004 07:11 pm (UTC)
Very good idea... but I wonder if you can amend a bit. What if the Ishbalites have the ability to make the actual philosopher's stone... a combination of alchemy AND faith? Remember, Ishbal is a religion, so what would they have to do with alchemy? ^_^ Which then fits in with the rest of your theory even moreso since we can figure out the WHAT that allows them to cross the gate unharmed.
We are all fuzzy robots.makaioh on May 4th, 2004 06:03 am (UTC)
Very good point. I recall in ep 18 jii-san said "Those with the blood are protected by Ishvara", which implies that it's kindof an ethnic religion, like ancient Judaism. I've noticed that most religious teachings have a basis in practicality, so I'm suspecting there is some practical reason for alchemy to be forbidden. (Of course, that assumes that the forbidding came directly from the mouth of Ishvara and not from the human interpretation of those teachings.)
I will have to think on this some more. Unless ep 31 shoots my theory down completely :)