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03 May 2006 @ 08:21 pm
DISCUSSION... hopefully. :|  
If Ed and Al hadn't tried to bring their mother back and had just gone on living by themselves (seeing as they were sans-Hohenheim when Trisha died), do you think their relationship as brothers be less close, or closer? In what ways would they interact differently than how they do/what we see during the course of the series? I'm not just talking about Ed's guilt complex here -- I want to know what personality traits and quirks you guys think would definitely be different if they hadn't attempted human transmutation.

The other day one of my friends started talking about situations where she could see Ed and Al living off on their own, and I'm curious to see what some other peoples' opinions on all this is. :O

And, uh. Possible spoiler warning for the comments, I guess. XD;
 
 
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C-chan: basicsbox_of_doom on May 4th, 2006 02:12 am (UTC)
I don't think they'd be quite as close. That being said, they still would be quite attached to each other. However, without as much of the sudden need to grow up... and all they'd been through... there wouldn't be quite as much devotion between them.

So, I think they might be less close, but not by much.
Look for me with the sun bright sparrow ##: { Ed; determined }violent_aki on May 4th, 2006 02:51 am (UTC)
Hmm. Good topic, though it's hard to say.

A part of me thinks they might be closer, because Ed would still be trying to protect Al -- armor or no armor, he's still the older brother and he just seems like the type of guy who'd really step up to the role.

As another plot route, though, I could see them going off to try and find Hohenheim, for whatever reasons. I dunno, I just think maybe they'd still try and seek some sort of guidance, and even though Ed hated his father so much, he'd eventually realize that he had nowhere else to go.

But still, hard to say in retrospect. Food for thought as I lay awake tonight!
Cynthia: Sunlightcsakuras on May 4th, 2006 03:58 am (UTC)
Hmmm. I think that they wouldn't be as into alchemy after their mother died, because the main reason they studied so hard at it was to bring Trisha back. Of course, they are naturally talented at it, but even if they do choose alchemy as a profession, they wouldn't be as good as their post-human-transmutation selves (especially because they wouldn't have seen the Truth).

Also, I don't think Ed would become a State Alchemist. If he weren't so desperate, he might consider the risks more carefully, and wouldn't see any need in becoming a dog of the military without a goal to strive for.

That is, unless it was Al who first stood up to him and said "I don't want to do this, it's not right." Then I could maybe see Ed researching human transmutation on his own later on, without involving Al, and he'd be stuck with the consequences by himself. And then I think Al would feel it's his responsibility to get Ed's body back or whatever, because he didn't stop him in time.

...I'm getting fic bunnies. D:
Treebenttheleaningelm on May 4th, 2006 04:21 am (UTC)
I think Ed, at least, would still have a guilt complex over not resurrecting Trisha, because the boy thrives on guilt. Though I agree with csakuras above that if they were to 'abort', it would most likely to be because of Al's actions and/or decisions.

I think they would still be extremely close. After Trisha's death, Ed and Al became each other's only family--the bond was already unshakeable before the attempted transmutation(York Island, anyone?).

The only thing, though, is that I don't know how much sway Al would have over Ed's actions. Part of what keeps Ed from doing his crazier stunts is the fact that Al's with him, that Al's body is his ultimate goal, and that Al being a suit of armor 'is his own fault'. So if Ed didn't have that hanging over that head, I think Ed would be more likely to run hog wild, and Al's only measure of control would be something like that of Izumi's--to beat the living daylights of him every time he toes the line.
Cynthia: LAFFcsakuras on May 4th, 2006 05:48 am (UTC)
....I now imagine Al keeping Ed on a leash whenever they go outside. XD
Treebenttheleaningelm on May 4th, 2006 03:03 pm (UTC)
That would be utterly awesome!

"Stay...stay...stay...good boy! Here's a dog biscuit,"
"Al, I'm not a d--mmphshgmph!"
venenatus.venustasdigindeeper on May 4th, 2006 06:03 am (UTC)
I saw this doujin by them online a few months back, can't remember where, but it was an AU situation in which they never tried to resurrect Trisha. It had them living in their home, spending the day doing chores and reading, and at night Ed asked Al if he thought they should've tried the human transmutation. Or something.

But this topic is very interesting. What if they had just accepted the death and moved on? I think they would be closer than ever before - they only have each other now, and maybe Ed wouldn't have realised how precious Al is to him without the whole...Incident. Thing.

*goes back to lurking* <- I'm not very coherent, so I prefer lurking, teehee...
♌ sudama, corrupter of peppers.su_dama on May 4th, 2006 06:57 am (UTC)
Yes, true to all of the above.... The reason for their severe closeness and protectivity is due to the action of transmuting their mother...if they hadn't, they possibly would have wondered if they could have pulled it off...and then have done it at a later date....or maybe just not at all. They probably would have left their house for good anyways after their mother died, because they need care just as any other children do. I was always wondering about that during the series...whether they were being taken care of and by whom. Winry most likely wouldn't have been left out of the picture if the boys hadn't tried the alchemy. And yeah, maybe they would have tried looking for their father anyways...and THAT alone would have been an adventure. BUT....the whole point of the series is brotherly love, devotion, and ambition....with the will to do good...and to succeed, or at least try to. Hmm...we could really do something with this topic.

Like....hey, anybody interested in challenging me to an AU fic? Maybe I could pull one off. I've never tried.

Either way....Ed+Al=heart

~Adonis
Cynthia: Familycsakuras on May 4th, 2006 07:58 am (UTC)
Well actually, in the manga Trisha dies when they're really young (four and five years old) but they continue living in the house all the way up to when they attempt the transmutation- having meals with the Rockbells and stuff of course, but generally it seems like they could take care of themselves alright with the money Hohenheim left.