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23 April 2006 @ 04:18 pm
Questions on FMA  
[EDIT] Thanks to everyone who answered the questions, definitly help me understand what happened much better. Once again, thanks for answering my questions!

These questions I'm going to ask will have spoilers, so for those who haven't watched the anime completely, it's best not to look at them.

The reason why I'm asking these questions is because I've seen the show, but there haven't been episodes that I've missed here and there, so while I get the gist of the ending, there were some questions that I had.

If anyone can help me answer the questions, it'd be very helpful!

How did Rose get a baby? Is it her child? Who's the father?

Envy is Hohenheim and Daunte's child/homunculus?

Did Archer, in his automail form, in the last episode, shoot out Mustang's eye?

Can homunculi have children? Did Pride really beget a son?
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Mari: Even If I Turn - inazuma_nokaitou_marina on April 23rd, 2006 11:19 pm (UTC)
Rose was taken prisoner by the military and raped, possibly repeatedly.



No, it's assumed Selim was adopted.
Krystalkrystalfaerie on April 23rd, 2006 11:45 pm (UTC)
Well, in the manga it's said that Selim was adopted, so....
when the sun shines again: Priori Incantatem - Harry vs. Voldemortvforvera on April 23rd, 2006 11:53 pm (UTC)
Ahhh, I was wondering how Pride would have a son :D Adoption makes sense.

Thanks for the answers!
j00cymez on April 23rd, 2006 11:20 pm (UTC)
1) Rose was raped by some military guys during the Lior rebellion. It's never said in the anime who the father is (or if it is, I don't remember).

2) Yes. :3

The last two I'm not very sure of. :/
when the sun shines again: Dragon Chase - Harry vs. the Horntailvforvera on April 23rd, 2006 11:54 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I missed the part where Scar says Rose was captured and stuff, so I just assumed the baby might have been Scars ... waaaay off wasn't I?

♌ sudama, corrupter of peppers.su_dama on April 24th, 2006 12:50 am (UTC)
To respond to number one, yeah, they just don't really mention the actual word "rape" in the anime... Supposedly that would have been inappropriate... When they allude to it, it leaves many doors open. But who knows who the father is...
Toby: Rekit3h_toby_chan on April 24th, 2006 01:35 am (UTC)
I don't think it was a matter of being inappropriate, and I don't get why people think that at all. (Come on, haven't you seen Ceres or Fushigi Yuugi?) Just that in that situation, with Rose right there, it would have sounded kind of unnatural for Scar to go out and blatantly say "Yep, and she was raped by a bunch of A-holes from the military, so that's why she's emotionally messed up and has a bastard child." It's really hard for people to talk about subjects like that.
The Freak: fma; alchemy circle; serpent's cross_shinchansgirl_ on April 23rd, 2006 11:21 pm (UTC)
not sure about the first one, as I can't remember exactly, but I'm pretty sure the kid was from the orphanage Rose was working at when she went mute for a while.

Envy is Hohenheim's attempt at bringing back his son - I'm not sure if it was his child with Dante or not, but it seems likely to me.

No, Archer didn't shoot out Mustang's eye. He injured it in his fight with Bradley.

No, the sins can't have kids - Pride adopted.
The Freak_shinchansgirl_ on April 23rd, 2006 11:23 pm (UTC)
ok, aparently some people are saying "yes" to the third question - I'm not 100% sure, but I THOUGHT it was in the fight with Bradley that it got so messed up, and that the injuries with Archer were more superficial. I could be wrong.
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The Freak_shinchansgirl_ on April 24th, 2006 12:35 am (UTC)
it's been a while since I've seen that time-frame. ^^; My cds for the episodes after...I think 20 are all buried at the moment, and have been for a while. I've seen them all before, but it's been a while, so it's a bit fuzzy ^^;
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when the sun shines again: Rapture - Daniel Radcliffevforvera on April 23rd, 2006 11:57 pm (UTC)
Re: Good questions!
I've been wondering what Envy was, I missed the part where they mention why Envy's so pissed at Hohenheim, but I knew Envy was either his son or the homunculus of his son, but I didn't know what relation Dante had with Envy.

Hohenheim doesn't love Dante anymore right? He loves Ed and Al's mum, is that why Envy is so pissed at him?
theydontloveyou on April 24th, 2006 12:14 am (UTC)
Re: Good questions!
Envy's pissed at him because hohenheim 'dumped him' like trash after he tried to bring him back. If you saw the eps where Dante is trying to nurse Sloth back to health, you'd realize that the original form of the Homunculus is grosteque and 'not human.' I suppose when hoho papa saw their form he literally abandoned Envy as 'failure.'

I seriously can't answer anymore than that. Sorry :)
when the sun shines again: Priori Incantatem - Harry vs. Voldemortvforvera on April 24th, 2006 12:32 am (UTC)
Re: Good questions!
Thank you for answering my questions! I really appreciate it :D You've been a great help, I understand Envy and his relationship with Dante/Hohenheim much better. Cheers!
kawaiisporkmage on April 23rd, 2006 11:27 pm (UTC)
Number Three:
There are several schools of thought on this. ONe says Archer did it (that's what I think). Others say Riza did it when she was trying to shoot Archer (unlikely, since she's an expert marksmen, and was shooting uphill, whihc makes shooting Mustang hard), the third says Pride did it (but Mustang looked in decent shape eye-wise when he carried Selim out).
when the sun shines again: World Cup - Ginny and Harry my OTPvforvera on April 23rd, 2006 11:52 pm (UTC)
The way I saw it, is similar to the first school as well. Mustang looked fine when he was carring Selim out, and then Archer appears and to me, it sounded like there was a gunshot or something before Riza runs up, so yeah, I'd like to think Archer did it, although I was surprised how Roy survived that shot.
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when the sun shines againvforvera on April 24th, 2006 02:34 am (UTC)
Yeah, it makes me squeemish just thinking about how his eye got removed or scarred or what not. Poor Roy ... must have hurt like hell. I would hate to be shot (anywhere) the pain looks unbearable.
flameybird_artflameybird_art on April 23rd, 2006 11:51 pm (UTC)
General consensus that I've heard on No. 3 is that Riza's last bullet ricocheted (sp?) off of Archer's armor and nailed Mustang in the face, causing him to lose his eye. Apparently if you listen really closely during that scene you hear 7 shots but there are only 6 holes in Archer... or something. I don't know, I don't obsess over things that much. But the argument goes that if Archer had shot Roy's face directly, Roy would be dead. It was NOT Bradley, though, since I'm pretty sure we see Mustang after Bradley dies and his face is still okay, just scratched up a bit.
flutingfrenzy: Hawkeye being prettyflutingfrenzy on April 24th, 2006 12:14 am (UTC)
One more comment on #3--when Hawkeye reached Archer, his arm was down and his gun was back in its holster. So either he'd already shot Roy, or...he'd just kind of decided not to. Which seems unlikely, somehow. So even if one of Hawkeye's bullets did ricochet off Archer's automail, it wouldn't have hit Roy; he was already down at that point.

Of course, if it is true that she fired seven times and only hit six, I imagine the seventh was caught in a time warp and went into the wall she had Black Hayate up against in episode 13, when she appeared to have shot six times and fired seven bullets. Check your DVD; completely true.
ρ ρ fight da powah: what the DICKENSimti on April 24th, 2006 01:40 am (UTC)
when Hawkeye reached Archer, his arm was down and his gun was back in its holster

Uh, actually, his arm's not down and he's still holding his gun.
vicemagevicemage on April 24th, 2006 07:02 pm (UTC)
.gynophobia on April 24th, 2006 12:46 am (UTC)
How did Rose get a baby? Is it her child? Who's the father?

She was raped by one of those men who were part of the war.

Envy is Hohenheim and Daunte's child/homunculus?

Did Archer, in his automail form, in the last episode, shoot out Mustang's eye?
Actually, Riza shot his eye by accident. First time she ever missed and hit someone she really cared for.

Can homunculi have children? Did Pride really beget a son?
In the manga, no. Bradley adopted a son.
Bethany [綺綺]aoiyuzu on April 24th, 2006 06:19 am (UTC)
from what I saw, it looked like Archer was the one who shot Roy's eye... Riza was running toward the two when she heard a gunshot.
vicemagevicemage on April 24th, 2006 07:03 pm (UTC)
I've seen this episode more times than I can count and the only gunshots I've ever heard are when Riza fires...
Jessiscah_rambles on April 24th, 2006 12:28 pm (UTC)
Regarding Roy's eye...

My personal interpretation is that Archer shot Roy, though we don't actually see or hear him do so (since as he's about to shoot, the camera switches to Riza who is further away). I think that Roy must have turned to escape as Archer shot at him, so the bullet didn't hit him straight on - rather it caught the side of his face, so ruined his eye and the area around it but not doing too much damage overall.

(Honestly I'm not sure of the specifics of what would happen and how it would work, but the explanation works well enough for me. It's only fiction in the end.)