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12 April 2006 @ 08:26 pm
Crossposting as an excuse for research  
Alright. The semester is almost over, and like a fool I've procrastinated writing my research term paper until... now. What the heck can I research that I can write a quick paper about?

Well, duh. Anime. I decided that if I write a paper about anime, then I can rewatch Fullmetal Alchemist and call that research. Sweet.

Unfortunately, my brilliant topic had to be narrowed down to anime fan culture in North America. This means that I need to conduct actual research.

This is my super great research.Collapse )

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No One Can Stop the Cricket Pimps: FMA lovely made by medomlandbubbles on April 13th, 2006 06:55 am (UTC)
a) Female
bcd) I've always liked comics. I like good stories, fun characters, carefully created worlds, solid art and humor. I think, especially in the cases of "shounen" manga, target audiences are not as strictly drawn down gender lines as their categories would suggest.

I know this is an informal survey for an informal assignment, but I think it's interesting the way you phrased your questions about gender demographics. While there was no comment about females liking media aimed at males, a male liking media aimed at females is a potentially grievious offence to his masculinity, as if liking shoujo manga were something to be ashamed of. I'm not saying that this was your intent, but that's the way it comes off to me.
The Glass Sword: RUN AWAYsannask on April 14th, 2006 02:59 am (UTC)
while i see (and generally agree with) what you say, I think she has (sub?)conciously discerned that there has been far more of a push to "make material that is traditionally thrown only at guys more appealing to girls" and not nearly so much of a "make material that is traditionally thrown only at /girls/ more appealing to /guys/". You see the difference?

Full Metal Panic: Is it a mecha-action shounen show or a love-story strong female character (who is not portrayed in omgrevealing clothing much) shoujo-like show?

Bleach: Sure it's 'shounen', there's fights and action and even though there is a /very/ strong female lead, the main character is either extremely self-delusional or not in love with her. On the other side... there's more bishounen chars in Bleach than freaking Prince of Tennis.


The other side...

Furuba. I adore this series. I also know all of ONE (straight) male who likes it. Why? The (anime) story is /only/ about character personalities and love. (I need to read the manga one of these days : xx.)

Fushigi Yuugi. Sailor Moon. Angelic Layer. Guh, my shoujo knowledge suxxors, which amuses me (and makes me want to fix it). There just aren't as (IE don't seem to be) many shows that are intentionally constructed to attract "females first but-also many males."

Therefore, when someone thinks "shoujo", it is the "love-story" shows, the "magical girl" shows, the things that are so blatantly female that the /creators have made no attempt/ to aquire a male fanbase with said show. Yet on the other side, it seems, and especially recently, that many shounen-show creators are intentionally introducing important elements designed to attract female fans /despite/ the typical male-only elements of a given series.


So perhaps eikaron coulda-shoulda-woulda phrased the question differently... I do not think it is her fault alone that the question /is/ phrased as such.

... the problem with these little reply boxes in LJ is that I end up typing like five times the words I should, cause I can't see what I'm typing once it disappears off the screen. I'm not trying to pick a fight; I see your point and agree with most of it, but it's not /her/ so much as it is the quality of the canvas she has to paint upon.
(no subject) - domlandbubbles on April 14th, 2006 05:57 am (UTC) (Expand)
Ribi [[ Cosplay Extroardinaire!  ]]: Giggle! [Ed/Win]aiyia on April 13th, 2006 10:40 am (UTC)
a) Identify whether you're male or female

Female. :3

b) Explain (briefly) why you like anime and manga

It's basically my escape from the trials and tribulations of the depressing real world. I got into anime/manga when I was in third grade, and even though life wasn't as depressing then (or maybe it was, I mean, my parents WERE going through a divorce at around that time ..), I still became hooked on Pokemon's fantasy world. ^^ It just made life so much more bearable, not to mention gave me a lot of the qualities that I need for school and real life; for example, I became interested in writing through anime and manga. I became interested in researching different subjects and sciences and time periods that were portrayed through these different series's. Overall, it gave me an interesting way to educate myself, all the while providing me an escape.

... Other than that, I could probably say that it's just completely awesome. XD This isn't very brief, is it? Dx

c) If you're a girl, explain why you (may or may not) like shounen series

I like Shounen Series's. :3 I think they're just as much fun to watch (if not MORE fun) than a Shoujo series. I dunno. XD I suppose that's just the testosterone in me that all females have a tendency to have. :3
Anne: KOJI~! <3neko16 on April 13th, 2006 02:19 pm (UTC)
a) Identify whether you're male or female

Female~

b) Explain (briefly) why you like anime and manga

um... It's just really really cool? and I have lots of love for the many different art styles going around. I often like or dislike series based on the artstyle ^^; So yeah, I think it would be because of the nice art style... and the often very original and fun stories! :D um, brief enough? X3

c) If you're a girl, explain why you (may or may not) like shounen series

I LUV shounen <3 It's just cooler! >D I actually don't like shoujo at all, I like ACTION~ explosions and stuff XD And they often have more original stories too. If I read shoujo, I often get the feeling that it's just the same story AGAIN. And although some shounen series have this as well, there's just more... variety >__>; Am I making sense at all? ^^;
Anneneko16 on April 13th, 2006 02:21 pm (UTC)
oh wait, did I have to be from North America?! XDDD *curses her non-reading* Just pretend I am >D
Aniciayouko_astarael on April 13th, 2006 02:58 pm (UTC)
a) Identify whether you're male or female
Female

b) Explain (briefly) why you like anime and manga
I love the storylines, characters, and music. I don't exclusively watch anime though, because I love many American series as well. They're diverting and fun. Basically? I like anime and manga because I like animation.

c) If you're a girl, explain why you (may or may not) like shounen series
I've always been attracted more to action and adventure. I don't have the patience to pay attention to all the intricacies of whatever love triangle the manga-ka or animators throw in there. If there are romantic undertones to shonen manga/anime, I can just as easily ignore it if I feel like it.

But I generally don't. I dunno. I guess it's just more straightforward than in shoujo series.
Kat Mastersevil_kat on April 13th, 2006 03:01 pm (UTC)
a. Female, age 20

b. Because it's an outlet to my imagination that doesn't exist in america. There's tons of shows and things outside of the five or six sci fi shows on American TV stations. The fan base is huge, and I love the amount of thought creators put into their work. There's a lot of deep concepts and themes that can exist in anime--and I'm attracted to that. I'm not saying those things don't exist in America, just that a fan doesn't have the same sort of options open.

c. I love shonen series. The series is more about romance, and doesn't concern itself as much with the emotion I hate most--love.
kawaiisporkmage on April 13th, 2006 04:13 pm (UTC)
a) female (just like everyone else! XD)

b) I grew up watching all sorts of Disney-ish cartoons, so I always liked cartoons and animation. But, when I got older, all the cartoons were for children, and they were all really stupid (from my point of view). I wanted to to watch animated stories that were really good. When I started to watch anime, I was thrilled. I thought, this is something interesting, with a plot I can get involved in and characters I can relate to.
I started reading the manga after watching some of the episode (my first was Inuyasha). I was never really that interested in it, however. Then, I started watching FMA on DVD, and I was hooked. Once I watched all the episodes that were out, I wanted more, and I found the manga online, and started reading it (obsessively).
In general, I like anime because it has a story. It isn't for children. The ideas and imagination you find can only be expressed through animation. I like it because it doesn't conform to the American stereotype that cartoons are for little kids.

c) Shounen series don't try to focus on love stories, which make me vomit. They have a lot more actually story, instead of huge-eyes waifs staring longingly after a bishounen holding tha hand of some other girl. In shounen, they can have romance, but it's not so overpowering that the story gets lost. I guess I like it because it has a lot more meat to it, instead of just bare bones draped with sparkles. I find sparkles repulsive.
The Glass Sword: Lies and Fruitcakesannask on April 13th, 2006 11:58 pm (UTC)
"I find sparkles repulsive."


You make Armstrong cry.


*grins and fleeeees like the wind~*
(no subject) - kawaiisporkmage on April 14th, 2006 04:55 pm (UTC) (Expand)
who_isjohn_galtwho_isjohn_galt on April 13th, 2006 04:44 pm (UTC)
a). I'm female (and 20 years old, if that's of any interest).

b). The first thing that drew me to anime was the art. Most of the series that I end up falling in love with have amazing visuals and artwork. I also think there are some amazing series out there--great characters, great plot, great voice acting, etc. It's also something different that I can share with friends who have never really liked "cartoons." And it's a great way to learn about aspects of a different (in this case Japanese) culture.

c). Most of the anime and manga series I end up liking, are, in fact, shounen series. (Naruto, Bleach, FMA, Rurouni Kenshin, etc.) I think plot, characters, and artwork come before the labels "shounen" or "shoujo," though, with me deciding I like an anime series. I don't really base my decision on the type of series it is, only if I think it is "good" and worth my time (having great artwork, plot, characters, etc. like I mentioned above).
The Glass Sword: Muse Writes You!sannask on April 13th, 2006 11:57 pm (UTC)
a) Identify whether you're male or female

female, 23.


b) Explain (briefly) why you like anime and manga

better plots than american "everything is about sex and drugs and maybe some murders" crap, better writing (moment to moment, scene to scene), ability to watch cartoons and get that 'still a kid' feel without watching something insulting my intelligence, art is pretty, i watch subs to get a better feel for the japanese language which i have formally studied (tho I advise anyone /against/ learning japanese from anime), i watch dubs to study them for business-cultural research purposes.

oh yeah. the music. Anime OSTs pwn ur faise. this is all. *nod nod nod* Give me a sub-silver-screen american animated series with music as good as Yoko Kanno, Furuba, FMA, Jin Roh, Last Exile, Honey and Clover... Mushishi, Tsubasa Chron, Beck, even Black Cat ain't so bad : p


c) If you're a girl, explain why you (may or may not) like shounen series

when i think 'shoujo' series, i think either sailor moon or fushigi yuugi. now granted, i /like/ fushigi yuugi, but plot wise, and also in sailor moon, everything centers around /love/. the main char girl loves the main char guy by the end and is loved in return, all is happy, yey. this is all well and good and I don't want to /descry/ the role or importance of love in a story or in character's lives, but shounen series like bleach or fma or naruto tend to focus more on the characters and their actions and the story and the plot and their friends and the friends' backstories and their enemies and /their/ backstories and... from a writing standpoint, often (but not always) there is better STORY in a shounen series.

There may or may not be bishies. Personally, the presence or lack of chars that qualify as 'bishie' (what is the singular of bishies anyway... bishy? bishie?) or the presence or lack of chars that I personally find to be 'cute' doesn't really encourage me to or deter me from watching a series. Now I will state that I have hunted down series based on the art as a whole, but rarely because "that one screenshot of that one really cute bishie guy made me want to watch the entire show." I know bishies exist; but they're icing on the cake. I'll eat cake without icing just fine : p.

one thing that i have a mild dislike to in shounen series is the "defeat/powerup" cycle they like to espouse. Dragonball does it, Bleach does it, Naruto does it. Many others do it, I just can name those three. MainChar (who might be bishie) fights a guy, gets beat up, retreats to heal and train and get stronger, then fights a stronger enemy, gets beat up, retreats to heal and... you get it. Bleach manages to semi-hide it in their Soul Society arc, but not perfectly. Naruto... excuses itself around, and in a cool enough manner to succeed. But it's still there, still recognizable. Ah well. I guess all mahojo need their long drawn-out henshin phrases and sequences too : p. I just totli want to see Ichigo call out, "Zangetsu, Bankai... Po-waa Aa-pu!" while spinning in a Sailormoon-like circle, complete with "tsuki ni kawatte" pose at the end X DDDDDDDDD.

*cough* that's probably enough material from me.

friedbrain on April 14th, 2006 01:36 am (UTC)
1. Female, age 25
2. I like anime, and manga even more, because there is character development. Yes, there's a plot, but as compared to American cartoons, and even most American TV series, there is really a whole lot of in-depth character development. I like reading novels, but, don't always have the time, or, the mental capacity (I'm a mom of two young children, work a part-time job, and have a few side projects for income as well [Creative Memories, Graphics Design-- nothing THAT interesting!!! ;) ]) to read a good novel, but, anime and manga can be light and fun but the characters and the plot still evolve really well.
3. Shounen appeals to me more than Sojo. I've never been a flirty girly-girl, so I honestly haven't even picked up any Sojo because of the reputation it has. I've always been a sci-fi/action junkie (grew up watching Star Trek, Highlander, and MacGuyver with my dad), and Shounen has a lot of sci-fi and action. The Anime has a leg up on all of these shows though, because most Anime series have some kind of consistent plot, and the characters develop along their quest (the age old hero archetype, like every fairy tale has [reference Lucas and Jung for this one]).
Sailor Mac: FMA Dancing -- by mahoubunnybellsailormac on April 14th, 2006 04:08 am (UTC)
a) Identify whether you're male or female -- Female

b) Explain (briefly) why you like anime and manga -- A combination of the graphic style and the wide range of storylines. I find that the animators of Japan very often tell a story with more *heart*, and often more brains, than mainstream American entertainment.

c) If you're a girl, explain why you (may or may not) like shounen series -- Shonen series usually have a lot of action and intriguing plots. They also can have surprisingly deep, multi-layered characters (especially when compared to American action shows). And, of course, there's always the bishounen factor -- many shonen series feature male characters that look as if they were drawn to appeal to a distinctly non-male audience. ~_^
achan_hiarusaachan_hiarusa on April 14th, 2006 04:40 am (UTC)
Well, Sanna has made a general plea for males here so:

a) Male, and old enough to remember Star Blazers and Battle of the Planets on indepedent TV

b) The artwork (which once in awhile inspires me to draw again), the mature and deep storylines, the foreign cultural references, and a chance to practice Japanese. I am attracted to its differentness and the fact that anime is far broader in genres than American animation.

c) Why do I like shoujo? It is my favorite of the genres. I like the drama and the humanity of the characters. I like the sexual tension and the outpouring of emotion. Shounen irritates me with the long fight scenes, the tournaments, and the larger than life heroes.
Rob: I smile because it scares you.shinzakura on April 18th, 2006 01:12 am (UTC)
Caught the Sanna request for males as well, so...

a) Male, also old enough to remember the first runs of StarBlazers and BOTP.

b) The artwork and storylines (of the better ones), the cultural influences (not just Japanese), and the fact that in most places (only just becoming that way in the US) it is considered a valid and beautiful artform, not just something to keep the kids busy on weekday afternoons and Saturday mornings.

c)NA

d) I love shojo, because in many cases, it makes someone think. The drama and tension of the characters is well-paced and well thought and doesn't feel like brainless action or an excuse to market the trend of the month. Granted, there are banal shojo series out there, and some deep shonen ones. But experience has shown that's much the other way around the grand majority of the time.