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20 April 2004 @ 10:11 am
Episode 28 thoughts  
I woke up early today (again) to watch this episode. I was not disappointed.


Even when Al caught the fish in his armor, I was like "OMGSOCUTE". They need to STOP that.

There's one thing I noticed, though, that I might have just missed... I think there's a shot in the preview that's not in the episode. One with younger Ed looking really determined, and he looked more like manga-style Ed. It made me hope they would have manga-Ed's hilarious little "omg...oh fuck..." smile he does when he first sees the masked guy. That face cracks me up. XD

As for the mystery boy everyone's been wondering about...I checked out the screenshot someone posted earlier, and I'd bet all the pennies in my pocket that the arm is the exact same color as Edward's skin. Creepy. Everyone's also been saying that the kid looks like Al...I kinda fail to see the resemblance, but I can go with that.

The thing that gets me is about Izumi and her connection. Everyone's assuming that she had a child, it was lost, and she tried to get it back. What if she couldn't have children to begin with and tried to create one? So, she performed human transmutation, but visibly has no scars from it. What if she failed in the transmutation, and her punishment is knowing that the child must live now hindered by her own mistakes?

The latter part doesn't explain why Izumi would have dumped him on that island all nekkid and such, she doesn't seem the type. But I do know that his hair color is very close to hers. And while I can't find a clear shot of the color of her eyes, I think they might be blue. Course, they could be brown, the only shot I found just had her with dark eyes.

So, this child may be the culmination of all their failed attempts at human alchemy. It's kinda sad, really. But doesn't at all explain why he's with Envy in the intro.

...course, before this episode, I had a half-baked theory that he and the original form of Envy were twins...gods, I need help sometimes. =_=;;
Current Mood: contemplativecontemplative
Luna: Edward Elricklunaneko on April 20th, 2004 08:55 am (UTC)
Did you see preview on ep 29? Because in preview Al says to Ed, that kid got same scar on his shoulder that Ed had, when he was wounded by masked guy on the island. If it is indeed Ed's arm, there's no way this kid can be creation of Izumi.
What I want to know, is what Ed saw in the beginning of episode 1 that wasn't human and what exactly happened to it? I think he told Al he killed "it" but I don't belive it.
Tashatasha_mac on April 20th, 2004 09:10 am (UTC)
Well, it was just slightly crispy-dead when we see it again in episode 3, so...I don't doubt the mother-creature is dead. As for where the corpse went...I have no idea.

And I didn't mean that the mystery boy is what Izumi created. I did say that I believe that the boy's right arm is Ed's arm. I think the boy's the mix of hers and Ed's and Al's failed attempts at human transmutation. So, all the parts that were lost were remade into this boy.
Kalika Maxwellkalikamaxwell on April 20th, 2004 09:59 am (UTC)
I recall somebody saying Pinako mentionned she'd burried the mother-thing. Either way, tis well dead and gone. And that's good. >.
Lunalunaneko on April 20th, 2004 10:06 am (UTC)
Geez, thanks a lot! I'm gonna have nightmares for weeks after this theory! LOL!
Kalika Maxwellkalikamaxwell on April 20th, 2004 09:56 am (UTC)
This episode makes you chuckle the whole way through. OMG, TEH CUTE! @_@ I love them so much it kills me. Wai~

I stand by my point. Izumi tried to transmute her recently deceased child I say. Some people have pointed out it is likely she lost some internal organs, thus the whole throwing up blood thing. So I guess, her ovaries are gone or something like that.

I got the impression Izumi was just as suprised as them actually. I know I pretty much went; No, damnit, no grey eyes! No! I can take the arm-from-Ed part, but damnit, don't make this thing be Al's lost body too. >__< Al first, Ed, think about Al first!
We are all fuzzy robots.makaioh on April 20th, 2004 11:11 am (UTC)
I think it's Al's body, with Ed's arm. And Sloth has Trisha Elric's body. And - these are just my theories, mind you! - and Lust has Scar's brother's wife's body, and Envy has Rose's boyfriend Kain's body... hrm, I just noticed a pattern. I just noticed a pattern that leads me to believe my first statement is wrong. That this kid has Izumi's child's body, not Al's body.
Everyone in the list up there was someone that human transmutation was attempted on, with the possible exception of Rose's boyfriend Kain, but that of course is just a wild theory of mine anyway.
I'm pretty darn sure that Lust is Scar's brother's wife's body, and I'm pretty sure Scar's brother tried to bring her back to life via alchemy. And I'm positive Sloth has Trisha Elric's body. So, if we are in agreement that Izumi attempted human transmutation on her child, then it only stands to reason there is a homunculus with her child's face on it.
Probably is Pride.
Lunalunaneko on April 20th, 2004 12:21 pm (UTC)
Here's a scary thought after all that "Who's body is it anyway?" stuff - there's SOMEONE outthere, who used Izumi's, Scar's brother, Ed and Al's mistakes with human transmutation to make homunculus. BUT HOW???!!!
We are all fuzzy robots.makaioh on April 20th, 2004 12:33 pm (UTC)
Yeah. Since all of those happened in the show between 5 and 15 years ago, my personal guess is that it was Hoenheim (sp?) Elric. As far as Greed and the other older ones, who knows. I'd venture to guess that person had some kind of philosopher's stone, even if it is an incomplete one.

Here if I discuss the evidence I might discover a new theory, like I did before.
The sins seem to really hate the Elrics, and sortof imply that they know dad. They also hate being homunculi, and would rather be humans. So, it's not like they're working for their creator or anything. They're in about the same boat Ed and Al are in, trying to find the philosopher's stone just so they can be normal. OK, not all the sins, but surely Envy, Lust, and Gluttony, since they are the ones pressuring Ed to make a stone from those prisoners in ep 22. Sloth is in on it with them. And from the OP, looks like the boy-in-the-woods is also in with them. Greed appears to be the only one we know of so far who is not in league with Envy and friends, based solely on circumstantial evidence. I talk to much and make up too many theories, sure. But that doesn't mean they're not valid theories!

Anyway, yeah, someone is a wacko out there. Not only do they have the knowledge to create a homunculus, but they are keeping tabs on who is doing human transmutation. How the hell could the same person know about Izumi's child, Scar's brother's wife, AND Trisha Elric? Creepy-weird! Man I love this show!
Kalika Maxwellkalikamaxwell on April 20th, 2004 02:58 pm (UTC)
Mn. Don't think that entirely fits. Most of the sins are pretty old I believe. Greed himself is over 100 years old apparently. They can't have the bodies of people that weren't even born when they were created.

As for Sloth, impossible. We know she existed during the war. And we know Trisha was alive during the war too(remember Ed and Al hugging her after the news of Winry's parents' death get to them?). Unless it's her second body but I don't see why she'd change.

Interesting theory none-the-less.
We are all fuzzy robots.makaioh on April 20th, 2004 03:07 pm (UTC)
Just because they're using someone's body doesn't mean that's their first body ever. I figure they had bodies previously if they are older. Plus, we only know that someone named Douglas existed during the war, and now Sloth has assumed that person's identity. Hughes did say that the Douglas who shot the kid died. And yet, there she is, sitting with the fuhrer.
Greed, yes, I agree, he can't possibly have the body of anyone we know. But the kid in the woods, Sloth, and Lust, they may be young homunculi. That is, if my theory holds.

Even if it doesn't hold, there's still someone who knows enough about people who have attempted human transmutation to have copied the people that were attempted into homunculi. (Or, the kid in the woods has nothing to do with the child we suspect Izumi lost and tried to reanimate.)

Once again, just a theory, and a fun one :)
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Kalika Maxwellkalikamaxwell on April 20th, 2004 03:00 pm (UTC)
I've been hoping very very strongly ever since somebody suggested the idea. >_< Damnit, just kill him before he turns out to be trouble, please...

I keep going back to the fact the hair color doesn't match. It's the only evident I can find that goes against the theory right now. >.>
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Kalika Maxwellkalikamaxwell on April 20th, 2004 08:07 pm (UTC)
I've been wondering if Ed couldn't just tag his soul on any body. Well, any body not currently taken by another soul. So catch Envy and put Al's soul there. Then he can just take the right appareance and all is well. Or maybe Ed would give Al his own body and just let himself die. >_<
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Kalika Maxwellkalikamaxwell on April 21st, 2004 01:08 pm (UTC)
I don't think homonculus have souls. I don't think you can create those. I think that's what Lust meant by 'make us human'. They're missing something. I kinda see them as, like computers or some sort of vehicle on autopilote. Left alone they can do their thing, but if a human comes along, he's in control. I'd think putting a soul in an homonculus would either 'kill' him, erase his perception of self, or just blend in with the invader.

There's isn't a chance in hell they'd use that idea, I know. I just like to think Envy can have some sort of use instead of just making lots of trouble. I suppose I can say Envy is Lust's sex toy. I like Lust.

And yea. Ed's like that. But me would very much prefer an happy, or close to happy, ending. That'd be Ed alive(automail or not) and Al restored. But I dunno, the more the series progresses and the more I wonder if I shouldn't worry about the ending. >_<
angsty lemon ukewabisuke on April 20th, 2004 02:17 pm (UTC)
Never thought of the possiblity of it being [part?]Izumi's child but now looking back at 29's preview...who knows? I automatically thought "OMG! Ed/Al-thing!" though the eyes are a bit *too* blue to be Al's. Whatever he turns out to be, it's scary. I think he stole Ed's pants or something. XD;
frostocelot on April 20th, 2004 05:57 pm (UTC)
haha, I think he saw Ed's clothes and transmuted the same ones for himself. i remember seeing the blue transmutation light. I didn't notice it was even Ed's clothes till the very end. Is Ed wearing leather...O_O?

And hey, the mystery kid knows alchemy...interesting..
lastdogman_pj: trigun kittenlastdogman_pj on April 20th, 2004 07:16 pm (UTC)
Just writing random crud down here, procrastinating on homework, don't mind me ^_^.

So this kid guy can use alchemy? Then that means he's not a homunculus because Lust said specifically that they can't use alchemy, right? Just a random thought..

What if there's no one that knows anything about these people and the fact that their bodies turn up is just because they're stored somewhere? Not a physical place. Maybe that door of Truth thing that I read in a different post. So when someone creates a "perfect human" it's like someone pulling a card out of a hat. It seems logical enough seeing that the body of Ed and Al's mother was created by the contents in that giant pile of theirs in ep1, so what else is there to get? A soul. Which no longer exists for her. And under some strange law that I'm unaware of, Ed and Al were being taken as a consequence. No soul was produced for her, so the bodies were stored away or such. Ok, the last part of that theory is wobbly, but it makes sense in my head.

As for the homunculus, who says their personalities were exactly created? They could have come from that giant Truth pot just like the bodies. Or they could be an equivalent to a demon-like spirit in the FMA world, something that doesn't exactly need a body to live but can possess one if it wants to.

Mmm, love the random ranting theories. Have some more! I'm not an expert on the show so sorry if I got something wrong for some reason.