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12 March 2006 @ 10:41 am
I'm starting a fanfiction for FMA the pairing is going to evantally be roy/ed, but ed's going to be raped in this fanfic but I'm not sure if it should be greed or a group of low ranking milltary goons trying to show him that he's not as cool as he think he is. So what should it be Goons OR Greed?
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Emma: aw.  edogretchen8642 on March 12th, 2006 04:47 pm (UTC)
goons. definately goons.
anax imperatoranax on March 12th, 2006 04:51 pm (UTC)
I think it would be very, very hard to rape Edward. Remember that.
Раиса "パポコ": Howl~papoko on March 12th, 2006 08:08 pm (UTC)
Extremely hard.

I can't imagine what you'd have to do to subdue him. :<

A raped Edward is an out of character Edward.
...stuff and things.: ...yeahdeuceloosely on March 13th, 2006 05:03 am (UTC)
...and how do we know he didn't have "something else" go to the other side of the Gate? If I were even thinking of raping Edward, I'd have to consider the possibility of another automail appendage rearing its ugly head (no pun intended).


did I just provide the original post with possible material for the fic? :P
Mari: Al's Amazement - angiechowkaitou_marina on March 12th, 2006 04:52 pm (UTC)
How could a "group of low ranking milltary goons" rape Ed? He has alchemy, they don't. Hell, even without the alchemy, Ed could still kick their asses.

This is sounding suspiciously like a "character A gets raped and then bathes in the healing light of character B's cock." It's been done. Repeatedly. And it still isn't good. My advice to you is to not use rape as a plot device and just develop their relationship normally.
Gehayi: remusWTF (copperbadge)gehayi on March 12th, 2006 05:01 pm (UTC)
Agreed. I'm so very sick of rape being used as a plot device, a cause for angst, or both. I can count the number of times that I've seen writers deal with post-rape trust issues and with damage to the rape victim's existing relationships with family, friends and lovers on one hand and still have four fingers left over. And this is not hyperbole. It's simply the truth.

Rape is a horrible traumatic event, both physically and emotionally. It takes years to heal, and some emotional damage is always going to be there. Love does NOT make it all better.
Toby: Edrussicont3h_toby_chan on March 12th, 2006 09:57 pm (UTC)
*Points* I'm with this person.

To lazy to continue on the subject.
梅奧: Keyword here!m3y0 on March 12th, 2006 10:04 pm (UTC)

and secondly, what would've happened to Al? He's with Ed like 105% of the time.
Velvet Macevelvet_mace on March 12th, 2006 05:05 pm (UTC)
My vote is greed. But goons are good too.
Velvet Macevelvet_mace on March 12th, 2006 05:14 pm (UTC)
Ed is hard to rape, but he's quite quite rapable. You just have to exploit his weaknesses, both psychologically and physically. Now while it's possible to have a bunch of low ranking goons happen (or even better do their research ahead of time and figure it out) on Ed's weaknesses, a humunculus would have an easier time of it -- of course he'd need a reason for wanting to. Actually, I don't think I've ever seen anyone write a bunch of goons spending weeks or a few months spying on Ed, figuring out when he's vulnerable and setting up a well constructed plan for rape. That would be both uncliched and smart if you could pull it off.

Backstory and good psychological reasons for everything will help you avoid the cliche pitfalls. I say ignore those who tell you don't write this bunny. Do it. They maybe burned on badfic attempts, but you are a very good writer, and good writers can pull off ANYTHING. (Hey look at me, my fics have GODAWFUL CONCEPT written all over them -- yet they work.)
Velvet Macevelvet_mace on March 12th, 2006 05:16 pm (UTC)
Oops thought you were someone else. Still what I say stands.
Velvet Macevelvet_mace on March 12th, 2006 05:30 pm (UTC)
As long as I'm spamming you with ideas for how you can make this work.... also keep in mind a rape victim will not be interested in sex for a very very very long time. Years even. You say eventual Roy/Ed. Make sure the relationship develops slow and keep in mind the healing process that will have to take place. Ed may even WANT to have sex, but will find himself having to break it off, because it causes flashbacks, or finding the act scares him or makes him feel trapped.

Keep Ed's personality in mind, and don't turn him into a wimp about it. He's not going to even hint at his vulnerabilities to Roy. Chances are his bad reactions will show up as anger and frustration with himself and others, not tears or cutting or wanting to be held. Chances are he'd aggressively pursue Roy before he'd allow Roy to pursue him, (since that would trigger feelings of vulnerability).

The better you are able to support your bunny psychologically, the more people will buy into it. Don't be rushed. Don't turn this into WAFF or skip over the ugly and contradictory feelings, since in the end, THOSE are what your readers will like the best.
Paula Ikari©paulaikari on March 12th, 2006 07:16 pm (UTC)
you have pretty good ideas...
sesshoumaru127sesshoumaru127 on March 12th, 2006 05:29 pm (UTC)
How could a "group of low ranking milltary goons" rape Ed? Well find his weakness and exstort it, or a sucker punch, and then hold him down then uncouple his automail theres many ways he not invisable. And the story would take place when he was still twelve and not writing this because I'm sick and twisted. I'm writing this because I was rape since I was five till I was forteen by my older cousin. This is just my way of leting it out, ok.

I do know that love doesn't alwaye make things better cuss it most always deosnt's. But I do like to think it does.
Mari: A Greed Thang - another_icon_ljkaitou_marina on March 12th, 2006 05:34 pm (UTC)
If you're writing this when Ed is 12, then it CAN'T be Greed no matter what. Greed was sealed underground until the 5th lab storyline, when Ed is 15. @.@
Hime D. ~創世の錬金術師~: Ed - Professor Elrichime1999 on March 12th, 2006 05:41 pm (UTC)
You might want to, err, reply the comments above instead of making a new comment thread? There's a "Reply to this" button right under the comments.
The Hookah Smoking Caterpillar: confusednishibi on March 12th, 2006 06:29 pm (UTC)
...What happened to you is awful...
but.... You don't mind saying it here in front of billions people??
There are people who were raped and kill theirselves cause they couldn't speak of it... People that don't say a single word after that.. People that cannot even touch somebody... And you just say it like this?
Dude... I'm somehow confused ^^;;;;
sesshoumaru127sesshoumaru127 on March 12th, 2006 06:47 pm (UTC)
Well two years ago I did try to kill my self and I went to I guess you can call it rehap for awhile. I'm not afiad to say I was raped to any one becauses I spent to long hiding it. and now I finally worked my way threw it, and I'm not afriad any more. Its over now, and why should any body be ashamed of saying something like that to anybody.
sesshoumaru127sesshoumaru127 on March 12th, 2006 05:40 pm (UTC)
Thats just if I do the goons, not greed ed will be well seasoned in how to defend himself if I choice Greed.

I really think I'm going to do the goons thoe.
zuruzuru_ne on March 12th, 2006 06:30 pm (UTC)
Seeing as how it would be difficult it rape Ed, goons may be unrealistic, you know? (Although I'd rather read goons doing it than greed) So maybe you should have high ranked officers doing it instead, not lowly goons. ^^
넌내게미쳐 ❤ironfist on March 12th, 2006 07:11 pm (UTC)
I agree with anax it would be very very hard to rape him. Even as 12 (he was training with Armor!Al a lot wasn't he?). But I really really advise against the rape part.
Paula Ikari©paulaikari on March 12th, 2006 07:13 pm (UTC)
if they take off the automail arm... Ed is pretty useless..... that way I think that a 'group of military goons' can pull it off...
Rekall: fma_edrekallthegreat on March 12th, 2006 09:06 pm (UTC)
Not Greed.

To me it always seemed that Greed was the most humane Homunculi. For example when he had Al captive he felt bad/tried to cheer Al up when he thought that "Al's older brother" was dead. He also made sure that a message was delivered to Ran Fan and got mad at Wrath for insulting humans. The other Homunculi don't really care about humans as they were even ready to kill the sacrifices (for example Lust tried to kill Roy).

Therefore it would be really OOC for Greed to rape anyone.
UMEKO danced the CHANSEY Dance!umeko_pyon on March 13th, 2006 02:25 pm (UTC)
got mad at Wrath for insulting humans

That was actually [INSERT SPOILER HERE] taking temporary control, but yeah, I agree with you on all other points. XD;
Rekall: fma_edrekallthegreat on March 13th, 2006 06:00 pm (UTC)
I know but if...umm...[INSERT SPOILER HERE] can take temp control he would do it if Greed decided to rape Ed so I included it. ^_~
Hotaru Tomoeangelofsaturn on March 13th, 2006 09:12 am (UTC)
Not that I'm saying that rape should be used in the plot(I saw what you said OP and I've been there too...not as long as you were but it's still the same no matter how long it goes on and I am sorry and if this helps you get it out then you gotta go and do what helps you) but the only way I'm seeing it possible is if someone were to do something to all of Ed's automail.
He can't do alchemy w/o the arm and he can't fight/run w/o his leg.

So if someone did something...not necessarily remove the arm but to somehow circumvent the design to where it's basically worthless...no wait.
I remember an ep where the automail was damaged but he clapped his other hand into it and did the alchemy.

Really removing the automail would be the only way that he'd be defenseless enough.

Unless there's a total obvious thing that I'm overlooking.

Just throwing out some plot devices.