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20 September 2005 @ 03:58 pm
They dare change things ?! Oo  

One of my friend noticed something disturbing while watching episode 6 on TV, when Ed involuntarily perform alchemy for the first time without using an array

In the fansub version (so on Japanese TV), Ed just punches his other hand before putting them on the basin

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In the (French) TV version, which is the same as the Japanese DVD (and the US version I guess), he claps them ^^;

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My friend thinks they changed it because they (the scenarists ? XP) realized Ed needed to clap his hands, not just touch them. I hadn't even noticed it because I prefer the original version and the DVD haven't been released here yet (so I just keep on watching my fansubs), but I feel cheated. Because of this scene, I've always thought Ed didn't really need to clap his hands, just to join them in a way or another (and used this in my fanfics), and I'm suddenly told it doesn't work this way anymore ¤_¤

Well, had you notice ? ^^; And what do you think ? Unless Arakawa said something about Ed needed to clap, I really don't see why they would change this (what else did they change ? ._.;)

Oh, and on episode 47, when he makes himself a new hand, he doesn't seem to use a circle (but he can't clap his hands either XP)

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We really don't see well what he is doing in this scene, I guess they just wanted to avoid the difficulty, but I'm really confused @_@
(they're not supposed to change things !! >.<)



*edit* This has already been discussed in this entry
http://www.livejournal.com/community/fm_alchemist/1437455.html
It's a bit old so feel free to post your thoughts here, but there's no need to start discussing this again ^^;
 
 
edik_lyodoedikedik_lyodoedik on September 20th, 2005 02:29 pm (UTC)
Add the fact that in ep23 or 22 he didn't had a right hand at all and he just touched the remaining of it.

Well, I think, that's one of the staff's mistakes, but after all the principle is that Ed should lock the circle which is performed by his own body so i don't see any reasons why he can't use even his legs, e.g.
cofiecofie on September 20th, 2005 03:27 pm (UTC)
Lol ed using a leg xD Just imagined it Lol
hahaha XD
Kao-chankao_sama on September 20th, 2005 04:31 pm (UTC)
I think he can do it by clapping his feet too XD
(but why did they change this scene >.<)
Kat~♪: Al- Nothing Goldsome_kat on September 20th, 2005 07:07 pm (UTC)
your icon is just adorable is it gankable?
giapetgiapet on September 20th, 2005 02:45 pm (UTC)
If I recall correctly, Ed uses his arms as a sort of array-- they form a circle that starts the alchemical energy.

So I don't think his hand position matters so much as his arms.

Clapping is just more efficient than balling up a fist every time =P
cofiecofie on September 20th, 2005 03:29 pm (UTC)
Yepp I know the same reason. Ed just needs to make a circlce somehow then his works.

So don't worry about your fic.
the idle blue ronin ٩(-̮̮̃-̃)۶smea_chan on September 21st, 2005 01:28 pm (UTC)
waaa! can i see the whole version of your icon? XD
cofiecofie on September 21st, 2005 07:39 pm (UTC)
Suuure xDDD

Its a japanese fanart.


devils_devotion on September 20th, 2005 03:53 pm (UTC)
..............I think there was already a huge discussion about this already, wasn't there? When episode 6 FIRST aired on Adult Swim?
Kao-chankao_sama on September 20th, 2005 04:30 pm (UTC)
really ? (I thought so XP) Do you have a link or any idea of when it aired so that I can find it please ? ^^
devils_devotion on September 20th, 2005 04:52 pm (UTC)
I SEARCHED FOR A FULL TWENTY MINUTES, AND CANNOT FIND IT ANYWHERE. *flail*

My only advice is to check the calendar for the community the day the episode aired.
Kao-chankao_sama on September 20th, 2005 08:37 pm (UTC)
I FOUND IT !! XD

I found it was first aired on December 11, 2004, so there was a discussion on the 12 ^.^

http://www.livejournal.com/community/fm_alchemist/1437455.html

I think I hadn't join yet... I'm going to edit my post so that, thanks for telling me.
Kao-chankao_sama on September 20th, 2005 08:38 pm (UTC)
*so that people won't discuss it again* XP
Kat~♪: Ed- Confess the Changessome_kat on September 20th, 2005 07:08 pm (UTC)
yeah, I remember the discussion. It seemed like it went on for days.
dzioo: standarddzioo on September 20th, 2005 05:14 pm (UTC)
wow that sure is trange for them to change something minor as this one^^;;;;; i prefer the original versio as well, it was more natural for him to make something like this
as for him performing alchemy, scar once said that he creates a circle by putting his hands together. it wasn't said by clapping. i thik that the clapping thing is only to be more effective XD. that's why he was able to create a new hand for himself in that ep you've mentioned. at last that is what i believe
yaminokurisu on September 20th, 2005 05:32 pm (UTC)
We all know he claps, but he can also do a noticable touch. That's the disadvantage of automail: it can break easily.
Rappydappydappy McTappy: Broken Neckraptorix on September 20th, 2005 06:22 pm (UTC)
Well... maybe he can clap the stump where his automail hand used to be to help alchemize? He was perhaps obtaining materials from the floor to help form his new ghetto hand...

*shrug*

Don't trust Bones too much anymore. They're fond of plot holes... especially towards the last 13 episodes of the anime.
Takara: Gaytakaraxv on September 20th, 2005 07:10 pm (UTC)
Oh god you noticed it too! When FMA first premiered on Cartoon Network, I was watching it to see what they changed. And being a picky little attention-to-detail biatch, I saw that episode and went 'holy crap they edited so Edo's hands are clapping instead of hitting his fist~wtf'

Anyways, remember when Wrath had Ed's arm and leg? He could perform alchemy simply by just smacking both body parts together, forming a transmutation circle with the experience of the gate. You don't necisarrily need to 'clap', that's just Edo's trademark he created.

As said, theres more than one way to skin a cat. :3
UMEKO danced the CHANSEY Dance!: Kesenai tsumi wa itamu kedo...umeko_pyon on September 20th, 2005 08:42 pm (UTC)
that's just Edo's trademark he created.

Technically, it's Izumi's trademark, and Ed just ganked it from her. :)
Takaratakaraxv on September 20th, 2005 08:50 pm (UTC)
Touche.. you're right- Which Izumi learned from Dante.. :3
UMEKO danced the CHANSEY Dance!umeko_pyon on September 20th, 2005 08:53 pm (UTC)
...OH RIGHT. I forgot about Dante because she's not in the manga.
Takara: Gaytakaraxv on September 20th, 2005 08:56 pm (UTC)
and Dante..who I think.. learned from Hoho-papa. Because he made the philosopher's stone with her.. and stuff. o.o
neko_haruko on September 20th, 2005 09:40 pm (UTC)
They did a scene change for 28 too. http://www.fma.jkaizer.net/anime/28/pic.jpg Ed's hair is behind his ears. and in the dun and sub it isn't. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/HaruL/edhair.gif see? Very strange.
Kao-chan: sasukekao_sama on September 20th, 2005 09:44 pm (UTC)
O.o
Well, I think Ed looks strange in the first picture (for some reason anime characters just always have their bangs before their ears O.o) but for them to change this... It's just look like they made the TV version in a rush and forgot some details XP
Thanks for pointing this ^.^
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Xarshaimmortalduelist on September 21st, 2005 06:30 am (UTC)
He...does. XDD