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12 September 2005 @ 05:54 pm
Mod Post: In-Joke Poll  
Due to the responses in this post: http://www.livejournal.com/community/fm_alchemist/3063070.html

the mods have decided to put the "in-joke posting" issue up for public vote. If this issue matters to you at all, please spread this around. Everyone who cares, please make sure you take the time to actually vote.

You will have 24 hours from when this poll was posted to cast your vote. Any votes cast after 6pm PST tomorrow will not be counted.

Thanks for your time ^.^

Poll #569390 Community Vote: In-Jokes

Should in-joke posts be considered on or off topic?

On-topic. I want to be able to post/read topics like this on the community.
114(45.8%)
Off-topic. I don't care to post/read topics like this on the community.
75(30.1%)
I do not feel strongly about the issue either way.
56(22.5%)
Other (please explain in comments)
4(1.6%)


EDIT: I just realized I forgot to say how we're defining in-jokes here. The definition we're going by is "a reference to the FMA fandom that does not directly include anything from the canon."
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reversing the polarity of the neutron flowshinraisei on September 13th, 2005 01:19 am (UTC)
Yes but only and I stress only if it holds relevance to the series. (Not a fandom joke because newcomers or even current members may not know what you are talking about. So rather a joke from the series like Ed and his height.)

I don't know, that's my two cents.
Mari: Not God Drunk! - kebiconskaitou_marina on September 13th, 2005 01:21 am (UTC)
See the edit, thank you for reminding me.
tath-chan: arukittyelevenses on September 13th, 2005 01:23 am (UTC)
Shinraisei said pretty much what I was going to say. I only object to fandom jokes because as a relative newcomer myself I still don't always understand them. ^^ We need a fandom dictionary or something... :P
☆carina☆immaturity on September 13th, 2005 01:49 am (UTC)
I think inside jokes should be allowed only if there's some kind of link to the original stuff, or some kind of explanation if there is no link. Not knowing what's going on at all and yet having a bajillion peole going "OMG LMFAO THAT IS SO GREAT" is kind of tiring -__-;;
grenville: Maka Maka: <3grenville on September 13th, 2005 01:58 am (UTC)
Oh thank god. I love you guys (you guys meaning the new mods). I voted yes.
[Z]zyraxus on September 13th, 2005 02:07 am (UTC)
Obscure references make me happy, I would like to have in-jokes stay.
ACacdragonmaster on September 13th, 2005 02:11 am (UTC)
*blinks* It won't let me vote...? I just saw this post but it's showing up without any option to vote...
panjapanja: alboxpanjapanja on September 13th, 2005 02:15 am (UTC)
I think there should be more post restrictions, but not necessarily on fandom jokes... the "OMG I LIKE ED!" or "THAT EPISODE WAS COOL (no real post content)" or "TODAY I BOUGHT AN FMA VIDEO GAME!!" get on my nerves. The kind of stuff that belongs in a personal journal...
ᶜ ᵃ ˡ ᵉ: hair.nefariouskittentumut on September 13th, 2005 03:31 am (UTC)
Nuuu!! ;__;

are you kidding!? i LIVE for the in-jokes! *cries* -plus the fandom has always been like that for me, fandom in-jokes are everywhere in my life, i love participating in most of them? XD those kinds of things.. they are FUN!! X3 *VOTES YES*
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Nights Mistress: Simonnights_mistress on September 13th, 2005 11:15 am (UTC)
Well to be fair, you were once a newbie. And seeing as though we're only slowly getting Full Metal Alchemist out here, I have absolutely no damn clue where "Moofy" came from. I don't even know who it refers to.
Kyt: Ed - Prettykytyngurl2 on September 13th, 2005 01:13 pm (UTC)
Moofy = Wrath, and I think the post is in the memories somewhere. bushbaby_sama has been doing a great job with them! :)
Kao-chankao_sama on September 13th, 2005 01:50 pm (UTC)
I would be sad if jokes with Lightbulb or palm tree Envy were not allowed anymore.
As for Moofy, I personnaly had no idea who it was before joining this community, but I read about it in the faq. Everything is just written ^^;
ACacdragonmaster on September 13th, 2005 04:21 pm (UTC)
Yeah, as said above, Moofy is anime Wrath. That and names like Bruce, David, Cheryl, and Hoju came into existance because there either wasn't a name for the character, or people didn't know of the name at the time. And incidently, many of them have spread well beyond fm_alchemist now- I've heard the Adult Swim forums now make regular use of the Bruce/David/Cheryl set of names, for example.

Really, those names are less in-jokes and more just a natural part of the fandom. Character doesn't have a name but we want to discuss him? Give him a nickname! And they stuck. *shrugs*
Küchenhexe (formerly Zanne Chaos)kuchenhexe on September 13th, 2005 10:22 am (UTC)
In-jokes? -_- Enough, already. I like a good in-joke as much as the next person (hell, I still randomly add "...now he dead from coke" to things once in a while while chatting with friends where appropriate </Fandom_Wank> and note the keywords: "where appropriate" and "with friends") but there's a problem with in-jokes:

They're only actually funny outside of their original context a small percentage of the time. And then when new people come in and find the original source, it's new to them, but old hat to the rest, and even teh funneh gets boring and old and dry when you've dealt with it for the millionth time.

Instead of abolishing in-jokes entirely, why not compile a list of in-jokes that are overdone and need to be retired? New in-jokes can have their day in the sun?
ACacdragonmaster on September 13th, 2005 04:18 pm (UTC)
The thing is, though, no one can actually sit and dictate whether a joke is overdone yet or not. Most the major in jokes really aren't, it's just the other nonsense posts that were only funny about three times but have been posted thirty. Like, the "todya I saw someone who looked just like X!" posts, and the random sign posts. Usually instances of the true in-jokes come up in context that IS funny, or they just show up in the comments where it hardly matters either way, anyway.
Stephanie Pozos.takokinoko on September 13th, 2005 05:30 pm (UTC)
Uh, in my opinion this is a fan community, which means we are all fans and therefore support fandom. I think in-joke posts are an expression of such fandom, it's a random fan claiming: "YOU there, fan like myself, I found this quite funny/hilarious/amazing and wantd to share it with you"

I know some in-jokes make no sense to some of the comm members, or sometimes they get the joke but find it stupid or whatever. I think we are all fans and as such, should respect what other fans want to say. You might find it annoying, but some fans find it real fun. So the ones that don't like in-joke posts well just don't read them, that's all. They are not precisely spamming (not all of them, at least) because some people complain that instead of news they find random crack. But be real people, there are not always news on FMA, if members find nothing official or some news to post, they post crack!

In-jokes might sometimes be silly because not everyone gets them, but they're still posted good hearted to all of you members, we should appreciate that others want to entertain us with their jokes. (I think this was kindda long x_X)
a fangirl: sound advice from the hughes (akiha)treesock on September 13th, 2005 06:47 pm (UTC)
A little bit of me dies whenever I read the words 'lightbulb Envy' or 'palm-tree hair'.

So that's my two cents.
Grygon: FMA Roy idiotic waygrygon on September 4th, 2006 09:55 am (UTC)
You know, I'd like to point out that once now a post of mine containing an in-joke was deleted a few months ago (WAY after this poll) and that just an hour or so ago another mod threatened to delet another in-joke post of mine. Perhaps someone needs to remind their mods about this change that appears to have been in effect for over a year?

Or has it changed again and I missed that poll/thread somewhere in the links?