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20 June 2005 @ 03:00 pm
4th Trailer questions, theories and spoilers.  

First off, after seeing this trailer I know what most Elric kyoudai fans are thinking, NNNNOOOOOOOOOooooo! Coupled with that scene in the trailer to hint at the prolonged or even permanent separation of the brothers is the 43th(or was that 44th?) track from the movie OST called "Sad resolution~ separation". Is this just to trick us and get us even more hyped or are they stupidly giving away their ending(I guess we'd be kinda stupid too for watching all these trailers)? Apparently Edo says this line "kono sekai mamoru" which means something along the lines of "protect this world" but what does he mean, when he said that was he in Amestris or still in our world? And WHO is he saying it to himself or Al? Things aren't looking too bright for them staying together after the movie but I recall Raku Romi and Kugimiya Rie saying that the movie will not be a tradgedy and that Al gets some "love-love" scenes and a happy ending. Also the directors said that they wanted this movie to "move" people, and still hoping for my ending for the movie I think that they might be tricking us with all this sad stuff.

The second thing is the alternate peoples, what role do they actually play? Are they just there to remind Edo of his world or will they have some significence to the actual plot? As of now Heiderich!Al seems pretty unimportant what with all the dragon hunting and transmuting going on in the trailer. Alter!Hughes seems like he might be helping Edo out in the movie(based on mag. scans) but there are times when he seems fishy. Noa, who has a strong resemblance to Roze, is a gypsy that appears to be able to "read" into Edo and maybe has a hunch that he does not belong in that world when she appears in the trailer.

And finally, why does Edo appear to be able to use alchemy and has his automail back? Has Thule society tried to open the gate to Shambala only to merge Amestris and "our" world causing alchemy to exist in the merged world? Al.E, Winry and even Roy appear to be where Edo is what with fighting the suits of armor and all. Then there is that pic fom a mag. scan that shows Winry talking to what looks like Edo from the back. There is even a train pass that is being sold that has Edo clapping.
kiida_ne on June 20th, 2005 03:07 pm (UTC)
Not only that but don't forget that article with Ed all deleriously happy with Al in our world and in the armor again. Now that the 4th trailer is out my guess is that armor!Al is a fraud, unless they magically figured out how to preform human transmutation safley in less than two hours.

Plus, if Armor!Al is a fraud then who made him, for what purpose?
Candice: Genius - Edward Elricchibigarm on June 20th, 2005 03:18 pm (UTC)
I hope I'm not the only one who noticed something interesting regarding the armor things.

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Some more gate-ness. :D - chibigarm on June 20th, 2005 08:22 pm (UTC) (Expand)
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Mari: Ed's God - sky_darkkaitou_marina on June 20th, 2005 03:17 pm (UTC)
Ahaha. You also are forgetting that Studio BONES wants to make people feel PAIN with this movie.

Yes. They said that. I distinctly remember it, because it scared me XD

I personally think a lot of the magazine art has been red herrings though, JUST to make us freak out. And movie trailers are always structured to get maximum interest from audiences. Of course they're going to make things look bad/exciting/psycho.

It's all a matter of "just you wait," really. Though, secretly, I'm hoping for a sequel. I don't want to believe that this will just be the end! *laughs*
hehehefunnyhehehefunny on June 20th, 2005 03:26 pm (UTC)
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hehehefunny: Chibi Kibahehehefunny on June 20th, 2005 03:26 pm (UTC)

ok i think i can explain something! *gasp*ok with the picture of ed and als armor hugging and stuff, i DONT think Als Soul was in it, since this current trailer shows that evil women seems to control the armor and such, or...so i think.... shes using them to conquer shambala, the power of alchemy in both worlds... am i right? so! moving on, in this trailer we see our beloved Ed transmutting and armors falling out of what seems to look like a pastel vortex, ok! so he gets all freaks out and leaves and the Evil! not Al! armor that LOOKS! like Armor!Al comes and Ed gets all excited and THINKS! its al... but its not :3 well thats what i think, and the ebil blonde women made EbilArmor!Al to convince ed to help her conquer shambala...

FIN (tell me if i made any mistakes/exploded peoples brain)
7oxygenthief on June 20th, 2005 04:34 pm (UTC)
I wish I was smart like that.
But seriously, THAT MADE SENSE TO MEH.
Except I don't think ebil blonde woman knows that Edo's weakness is a walking talking armor...
I think Hoho-papa must've known ebil-blonde lady while he was travelling and whatnot, and they both discovered their fetish for armor...since the Al-Armor was from the Elric's basement... maybe it was just a souvenier from when Hoho was in Munich, and he got it from Ebil-Blonde lady. And... something.
I just want to know how Munich!Armors are connected to Elric's Basement!Armor. Because then we will know if Amestris and 'our world' are connected besides by The Gate.
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iggywaffle on June 20th, 2005 03:32 pm (UTC)
Most likely, since the ending of the series itself was so sad, they'll give it a happy twist toward the end. Studio BONES scares me. .. They're predictable, yet they're not, because everyone still reacts the way they want them to even if they inevitably know what will happen, me included. XDD MIND TRICKS! MIIIINNNNDDD TRIIICKKKS!

I agree that most likely the Al!armor is fake. I honest to God hope that Al regains his memories from when he was in the suit of armour, too. ;_; I really, really do. <3 .. AND YAY ALTERNATE UNIVERSE HUGHES. I was so. So. SO depressed when he died, given that he's my favorite character.

Why does the family guy always get offed?

And, I haven't seen the end of the series yet (I just know a bunch of spoilers, haha), but alchemy did exist over here. Not in the way it was portrayed in FMA, but alchemy did exist, so it's plausible that he never lost the ability for alchemic practice in the first place. Maybe it will give some focus on old alchemy practices in our world. Who knows?

..Man, I hope they don't end FMA with the movie. It's such an awesome series, and just, wow. All of it, wow. Maybe if they get enough fan response to the movie, they'll think about creating a second series. They never said it was the definite end, right? >D
kiida_ne on June 20th, 2005 03:54 pm (UTC)
Well, they said that the movie was going to answer alot of questions the series didn't so it's possible this could really be....THE END *a scream is heard somewhere in the dark side of the world*

But it's weird part of me never wants FMA to end, but another me wants it to end *dodges tomatoes* I mean, it would be very sad if they kept the show going and it just got old and repetitive, it would be better for it to go out with a bang and be remebered for it's greatness.

Though on the other hand.... IT MUST NEVER END NOOOOOO!!!!11111!!111
billypilgrim on June 20th, 2005 04:04 pm (UTC)
Um, I hate to intrude, but you're using an icon I made. Would you mind crediting me for it? 8D
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miki05 on June 20th, 2005 03:56 pm (UTC)
From what I can gather, simple and done, the armor image we saw that Ed meant might have been Al, he might had seek inside an armor to go to the other side. Just a theory, could be wrong.

Another thing is, they are trying to mess with our mind, saying how Al yelling "BROTHER!" at the end and Ed looks like he is waving good bye? But I highly doubt that Roy or whoever was holding Al back is going to keep him from chasing his brother. There is no way. Those two suffer long enough, beside the directors said it was suppose to be a happy ending. Let's hope is not a lie.
7oxygenthief on June 20th, 2005 04:38 pm (UTC)
Maybe some stupid plot-twist of Angst like Al and Ed can't be together or their brains will explode due to spacey time warpy GATE things.
Cos then I can totally see "Ed waving good bye" and "Roy or whoever holding Al back". But that's the only way; brain exploding.
....Bones wouldn't do that right?
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billypilgrim on June 20th, 2005 04:17 pm (UTC)
Back to the Future. Hmph.
moinkys on June 20th, 2005 06:04 pm (UTC)
Ok, I think everyone is getting a lil' too worked up about the Al cry. Considering Al has not seen big bro for how long, I think Al could be crying for a number of reasons. Hell, I bet you if Ed stubbed his toe Al would scream 'brother' in a dramatic sense. The officers holding him away I'm not sure about, but who knows. Heck, maybe Ed got hurt and they are trying to give him space. I do think Ed gets back to Amestris. If you look in one of the recent scans there is a pic of Winry looking down at someone with a point in their hair. My friend and I went through this whole process to figure it out if it was Ed or Al. I'm 98% positive its Ed. Soooo, I am still for a happy ending.
purplemewitpurplemewit on June 20th, 2005 06:28 pm (UTC)
Allright, the kitty will commence her overall movie theory

First the basic plot:

Ebil!ThuleLady is trying to get to shambala, and in the process, (incidental or no) starts making the two worlds merge, and not doubt if they do, theyll both go boom. Somewhere in the course of this, we see the dumping of armor, sent by Al to Ed, and Ed somehow ends up back with Al, or vice versa.

Then, the Nakedarmor!Al we saw in that magazine spread:

I think that that armor has the memories that Al lost at the end of the series. If Al wants those memories back, they're probably going to have to take that armor and Al, and then slam them both together in some sort of transmutation.


I don't think he's a bad guy, but I don't think he's going to be 100% a good guy either. Double agent? Who knows



Now where the hell does that dude with the mask and the ACME Eject-O-Arms fit in?
potato_thiefpotato_thief on June 20th, 2005 08:14 pm (UTC)


for some reason that made me crack up uncontrolablly.....

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xxxnaminexxx on June 20th, 2005 09:09 pm (UTC)
I agree with your theory on the last scene. I think Ed has "unfinished business," and doesn't want his brother to get involved. It could be Envy (if he is still alive) since he doesn't know about Al being alive.

IMO, BONES is just trying to freak people out with that last scene. :oP
the_drifter102 on June 20th, 2005 09:34 pm (UTC)
GOD DAMN U BONES!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111!!!1!!!!11!!!!!
my mind just came up with a assanie plot that bones could have possibly made up. when Ed finds and gets his ass whopped by envy the people of the thule socity take envy, whoops eds ass again and then somehow through the power of technolgy and magic far beyond the understanding of 1920 germany brain power unlock the gate. envy is not willing to die without making the humans suffer so he somehow cause the ametris world and our world to merge and says some evil shit like since i can't find hoenhime i will take him and all humans into oblivion and throw the words into chaos. this is by far the most confussing yet addicting trailer i have ever seen in my life!! it seems that they tried to make copies of al's armor but failed miserably.
one thing that keeps comming to mind is that the gate babies are supposedly that of unborn humoculis or dead humans converted into the energy of alchemy in the hagerns world so when they are release they are usally just hands grabbing you to the votext of the gate. that is what i believed. the trailer has forevr fuck that notion up for me and now i beleive they can take form and come into our world or the world of amertis..but then again arn't they only energy for alchemy so how are they able to be destoryed? they can be used as energy for achemy so u think they are now able to use somewhat of alchemy in our world now because the gate has been thrown out of control
fmfangirlfmfangirl on June 21st, 2005 01:08 am (UTC)
what?! 4th?! WHERE?! IVE NEVER SEEN~~!