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20 February 2005 @ 11:56 am
I have a question pertaining to Greed and Pride, which means that it has to go behind a cut.

I was under the impression that Greed and Pride were created by Dante, right? I thought they were, like, just, you know...Created by her. Why do they have skulls? (Jeez, I hope I'm making sense.) If they were created by Dante, I don't understand why they have skulls. I'm probably missing a major key point here, but I don't understand it. Pride was created to infilitrate the military, right? Was Pride created from a previous body, like the other sins?

If anyone can answer this question for me, I'll love them for all time. ^^
Current Mood: confusedconfused
Imagination at it's finestdragontrap on February 20th, 2005 10:12 am (UTC)
I belive she ended up doing two different transmutations to create them. Because if you look at how the anime was played out, to create any of the Homolucus (I think I just spelled that wrong, gomen) you have to have a failled human transmutation, which in turn leaves behind bones, and yes skulls ^_^. I hope that helped
Marikaitou_marina on February 20th, 2005 10:19 am (UTC)
Actually, those skulls were from their ORIGINAL bodies. That's why they were weaknesses for them. In other words, those are the skulls of the people that Dante tried to ressurect and failed to do so, thus creating a homunculus.
Imagination at it's finestdragontrap on February 20th, 2005 10:21 am (UTC)
Ah.... See I knew I had half of it right..... Just needed a bit of help with the rest... Danka
Christinamyloveshine on February 20th, 2005 12:03 pm (UTC)
Okay. ^^ Thanks to both of you!
Shark Baitgrifstar on February 20th, 2005 11:52 am (UTC)
Wasn't there also something about Gluttony not having an original body too? In other words, was basically created from scratch. I kinda forget now =/.

But I THINK Pride and Greed were actually people at some point (Probably some hundred years back like Envy). Therefore, they sould have some remains.
Christina: without sinner ; lustmyloveshine on February 20th, 2005 12:04 pm (UTC)
All right, thanks. ^^ I thought about that, but then I was like, "Didn't Dante create both of them by herself?" So, yeah, I got confused. ^^ Thanks again.
Marikaitou_marina on February 20th, 2005 04:28 pm (UTC)
That's actually not specifically what was said. I've seen a couple of different translations, but she says something along the lines of Gluttony being made specifically to crystalize the Philosopher's Stone in his stomach. No where does it say that she made him from scratch. I don't think that's how it works in the anime.
Shark Baitgrifstar on February 20th, 2005 04:36 pm (UTC)
Hmm, maybe it was that I was thinking about then. But I could have sworn he didn't have an original body.. Unless I'm just thinking of the fact that he wasn't really made to "be human". But my mind does fuzzy sometimes.. I really do miss my eps >_
Ruki: joy!ruki_elric on February 20th, 2005 12:06 pm (UTC)

I used to think that Greed and Pride were ex-husbands of Dante xDDDDD well who knows?

I watched the stars crash in the sea.: Elric Brotherstsukitaichou on February 20th, 2005 01:02 pm (UTC)

Well, I suppose with Greed that may or may not be possible. I'd like to think Greed would have better taste than that. XD

But she actually *says* in the anime that Pride can grow on his own, and age like a human, which really, to me, conveys the impression that he grew from a younger age. Because of the SIZE of the skull, I'm not guessing it was a baby, but not as old as Bradley appears to be, either.
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ACacdragonmaster on February 20th, 2005 08:08 pm (UTC)
o_O Wow, that's a very interesting bit of info... granted, it doesn't surprise me at all that Greed was formally a lover of Dante's (I'd actually thought that as a possibility before), but the context that the conversation takes place in implies it being post-series, and yet with Greed still alive to talk to Envy...

...unless maybe, it takes place inside the Gate or something? o_O
I watched the stars crash in the sea.tsukitaichou on February 21st, 2005 12:32 pm (UTC)
I didn't know that at ALL. O_o;
But it's neat.

What I *don't* understand about that conversation is, if it happened after the series, then how the hell is Envy talking to Greed? Because Greed died, and Envy just went through the Gate.

This brings up a lot of discussion topics that I'll have to bring up with Kas.
Thanks for the link to that! And I mean that.

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I watched the stars crash in the sea.tsukitaichou on February 23rd, 2005 04:49 am (UTC)
I've actually got a really developed theory on how it would work, and be possible, but it's not something I'd ever want to explain in comments, and besides, I'm sure not many would agree with me.
If you ever wanna hear said theory, I *do* have AIM and am on at least two hours every day. ^^
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I watched the stars crash in the sea.tsukitaichou on February 25th, 2005 12:12 am (UTC)
Will do. ^^