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30 November 2004 @ 12:53 am
 
Ok I have a question



What the bloody hell is Envy? I don't know if it is a boy or girl. I always thought it impersonated too many people to remember its gender or true form, but the long hair form it uses. Is it male or female? It sounds male but it looks female. I can't rely on the voice since Al and Ed are both played by women. Does anyone know?

This comes after me seeing a Lust/Envy DJ and they were she males.

Can I just say how much much I love Armstrong!!!!!! He has always been my fav FMA character.
 
 
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reversing the polarity of the neutron flowshinraisei on November 29th, 2004 11:18 pm (UTC)
Its just the english language. Saying "It did this and that" makes no real sense so you have to attach a gender pronoun like "he" or "she". Some languages follow this same thing like spanish, french or italian just to name a few. Japanese is different since some words aren't affected by thier pronoun and there are very very few gender-specific words.

(like in french il est allé and elle est allée are different because the verbs aller (to go) are affected by thier gendered pronouns which are il (he) and elle (she). Yes, that was a crash course in french grammar for you)
Red Power Ranger ソランジredninjawinz on November 29th, 2004 11:19 pm (UTC)
Ok so we all agree Envy is genderless.

I'm still sure the Dub will make Envy a man.
ACacdragonmaster on November 29th, 2004 11:22 pm (UTC)
They will, because the Japanese makes him sound like a man. Not in the pitch of his voice, but in the vocabularly he uses. I explained this in more detail in another comment, but basically Envy regularly uses some words that *only* males use in Japanese...
Red Power Ranger ソランジredninjawinz on November 29th, 2004 11:27 pm (UTC)
yes but i understand Japanese and I still was confused as to his gender.

ACacdragonmaster on November 29th, 2004 11:29 pm (UTC)
Red Power Ranger ソランジredninjawinz on November 29th, 2004 11:34 pm (UTC)
yes and i saw that but Envy may speak as a male but it doesn't look like a male.
ACacdragonmaster on November 29th, 2004 11:36 pm (UTC)
I've seen female characters that looked like guys, so what? Appearences don't have to be anything.

Also, I did go on to explain that if nothign else, Envy using "ore" could simply mean that he sees himself as masculine- a tough guy who fights for himself, even if not necessarily male.
Red Power Ranger ソランジredninjawinz on November 29th, 2004 11:44 pm (UTC)
yes and that means nothing. All I asked was what was Envy's gender. I was told the answer. In the manga which i haven't read all of, Envy is genderless. Thats the answer to my guestion.
Marikaitou_marina on November 29th, 2004 11:24 pm (UTC)
Of course they will. Because in the anime, he IS a man. XD
Red Power Ranger ソランジredninjawinz on November 29th, 2004 11:28 pm (UTC)
I thought it was genderless.
ACacdragonmaster on November 29th, 2004 11:29 pm (UTC)
In the manga, right now, he is. The manga hasn't been finished yet.

In the anime, he is at the end a male.

The anime and manga do have completely different storylines, particularly in the second half of the anime.
Marikaitou_marina on November 29th, 2004 11:31 pm (UTC)
Okay, let's make it really simple:

Envy in the anime = male (though maintains a genderless form most of the time)
Envy in the manga = genderless (ALL THE TIME)

There XD All done.
Red Power Ranger ソランジredninjawinz on November 29th, 2004 11:38 pm (UTC)
yea and i am up to ep. 22 on the anime and chapter 37 on the manga.

I'm not up to date on either as I have said.
ACacdragonmaster on November 29th, 2004 11:41 pm (UTC)
Um, then maybe wait and finish watching the anime first before asking?
(no subject) - redninjawinz on November 29th, 2004 11:46 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - shinraisei on November 29th, 2004 11:56 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - paulaikari on November 30th, 2004 07:15 am (UTC) (Expand)
reversing the polarity of the neutron flowshinraisei on November 29th, 2004 11:31 pm (UTC)
Well, his past form was. Not his current form. XD *gives you some maple syrup and goes to bed*