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30 November 2004 @ 12:53 am
 
Ok I have a question



What the bloody hell is Envy? I don't know if it is a boy or girl. I always thought it impersonated too many people to remember its gender or true form, but the long hair form it uses. Is it male or female? It sounds male but it looks female. I can't rely on the voice since Al and Ed are both played by women. Does anyone know?

This comes after me seeing a Lust/Envy DJ and they were she males.

Can I just say how much much I love Armstrong!!!!!! He has always been my fav FMA character.
 
 
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reversing the polarity of the neutron flowshinraisei on November 29th, 2004 10:43 pm (UTC)
androgynous=non-gender. ^^;

Actually, Arakawa Hiromu (author and creator of the series) said that Envy does not know if he's a girl or a guy. Also in the manga, the method of creating Homunculus is different and the whole "Homunculus are born from failed Human Transmutations" thing only pertains to the anime and not the since in the manga its completely different.
Red Power Ranger ソランジredninjawinz on November 29th, 2004 10:47 pm (UTC)
yes but i still though Envy would have a gender.
reversing the polarity of the neutron flowshinraisei on November 29th, 2004 10:57 pm (UTC)
He wouldn't have a clearly defined gender like how to tell if one is a girl, she has wide hips and a bust or if they're a guy, tall, deep voice and wide broad shoulders. Envy is in between but most refer to Envy as 'he did' rather than 'she' since as people we commonly choose to refer to someone who's gender we know not of when we first see them as a 'he'. (Say for example you see a girl but with boyish looks. People will tend to say maybe 'How's he doing?' instead of 'How's she' because to them since they don't know for sure they will choose to refer to the person as a guy until they find out otherwise.)
Red Power Ranger ソランジredninjawinz on November 29th, 2004 11:07 pm (UTC)
I'm still confused. I still think of Envy as an 'It'.
Marikaitou_marina on November 29th, 2004 11:10 pm (UTC)
And we're agreeing with you *nods* I just choose to call Envy "he" because "it" sounds awkward when roleplaying or writing fanfiction.
Red Power Ranger ソランジredninjawinz on November 29th, 2004 11:13 pm (UTC)
ahh makes sense. I call Envy it cause yeah... I dunno!! lol
reversing the polarity of the neutron flowshinraisei on November 29th, 2004 11:18 pm (UTC)
Its just the english language. Saying "It did this and that" makes no real sense so you have to attach a gender pronoun like "he" or "she". Some languages follow this same thing like spanish, french or italian just to name a few. Japanese is different since some words aren't affected by thier pronoun and there are very very few gender-specific words.

(like in french il est allé and elle est allée are different because the verbs aller (to go) are affected by thier gendered pronouns which are il (he) and elle (she). Yes, that was a crash course in french grammar for you)
Red Power Ranger ソランジredninjawinz on November 29th, 2004 11:19 pm (UTC)
Ok so we all agree Envy is genderless.

I'm still sure the Dub will make Envy a man.
ACacdragonmaster on November 29th, 2004 11:22 pm (UTC)
They will, because the Japanese makes him sound like a man. Not in the pitch of his voice, but in the vocabularly he uses. I explained this in more detail in another comment, but basically Envy regularly uses some words that *only* males use in Japanese...
Red Power Ranger ソランジredninjawinz on November 29th, 2004 11:27 pm (UTC)
yes but i understand Japanese and I still was confused as to his gender.

ACacdragonmaster on November 29th, 2004 11:29 pm (UTC)
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Marikaitou_marina on November 29th, 2004 11:24 pm (UTC)
Of course they will. Because in the anime, he IS a man. XD
Red Power Ranger ソランジredninjawinz on November 29th, 2004 11:28 pm (UTC)
I thought it was genderless.
ACacdragonmaster on November 29th, 2004 11:29 pm (UTC)
In the manga, right now, he is. The manga hasn't been finished yet.

In the anime, he is at the end a male.

The anime and manga do have completely different storylines, particularly in the second half of the anime.
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reversing the polarity of the neutron flowshinraisei on November 29th, 2004 11:31 pm (UTC)
Well, his past form was. Not his current form. XD *gives you some maple syrup and goes to bed*