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26 January 2004 @ 05:02 pm
Minor spoilers and spec for episode 16:

I thought the last bit at the end was pretty interesting:

EDWARD: Four years ago, the Colonel came to Rizenpool because he happened to see the letter we sent him, right?
AL: That's what he said... he said he was looking for Dad...
EDWARD: But it was possible that he went to Granny's place --

Armstrong appears at that point and interrupts whatever Ed was going to say. I'm thinking, maybe Roy also came to Granny's house to see Winry?
Current Mood: curiouscurious
Rukawa GF: roy_sparklerukawagf on January 26th, 2004 08:44 am (UTC)
well.. that's what I think. That's what I THOUGHT back in episode 15. I thought after Marco-san's story, I knew Ed's smart enough to connect it.
_neith__neith_ on January 26th, 2004 09:03 am (UTC)
Same here. I'm mostly wondering about the timing of Roy's visit. Wasn't that quite some time after the war had ended? Unless I'm remembering it wrong, Ishbar was six years ago, and Roy's visit four years ago. Why would he wait that long to visit Winry?

I thought after Marco-san's story, I knew Ed's smart enough to connect it.

Yeah. It's a bit sad, in ways... whatever trust he has in the Colonel now, a lot of it will disappear after Ed figures out he killed Winry's parents. I'd almost prefer Ed didn't connect the dots. There's already so much angst on the show as it is. ^_^
Rukawa GFrukawagf on January 26th, 2004 09:09 am (UTC)
"Why would he wait that long to visit Winry?" maybe at first he didn't know where Winry was. and Guilty concions of his. Then the letter arrived so he had a reason to visit them?

Who know? Maybe Ed doesn't know it was Roy who pulled the trigger. He might just think Roy was there though and watched it. But once he DOES find out dang... he's gonna hate being the "dog" of the military but will still be one just to bring back Al... ahh the angst!
IT'S THE WORST INCH OF SNOWtheboxization on January 26th, 2004 04:47 pm (UTC)
I dunno... at the beginning of the episode, he said he wasn't sure if he could trust them. At the end, however, he apologized to Armstrong, and was thinking of a sympathetic reason for Roy to have visited four years ago; as in, going to see Winry with guilt on his shoulders was a positive thing to Edward.

That's what I interpreted, at least - To Edward, equivalent trade is a big deal. If the alchemists didn't feel heavy guilt for their crimes, he wouldn't be able to stand it.
Maria'san: change by mii-chanmii_chan on January 26th, 2004 03:04 pm (UTC)
yeah... Ed doesn't know that it was Roy that pulled the trigger, right? well... i wonder how he then reached the conclusion that Roy was going to visit winry? for all he know, Roy didn't even know about that, ne?
or i'm i just talking rubbish as usual at 1 am? XD
_neith__neith_ on January 26th, 2004 03:37 pm (UTC)
I think so too. Ed doesn't know it was Roy. I was mostly asking about this since I was wondering about Roy's motivations -- all along it'd seemed like he considered Ed and Al's dad an important person to track down, but if he just came to the village to visit Winry...

Actually, thinking about it, it has to have been for both reasons -- he came to the Elric's house first, then to Granny's the next day. Maybe he meant to talk to Winry, but never had the chance to with both Elric brothers hurt.
Brenda: divine_rosehikari_light on January 26th, 2004 03:23 pm (UTC)
yea, that's what i thought. since he was the one who killed her parents, he should visit the daughter that lost her parents.
_neith__neith_ on January 26th, 2004 03:51 pm (UTC)
Yep. I'd like to see this turn out to be the case -- Roy deciding to check in on Winry while he was down there looking for the Elric's father. He's the one who orphaned her, so it'd make sense for him to want to make sure she was being cared for by someone.
kimisaeireba on January 26th, 2004 05:24 pm (UTC)
Yes, I can just picture it.

Roy, powerful and known for his actions in the Ishbal Civil War, charged with tracking down Hohenheim for ... some reason or another, arrives in the town the wife of the alchemist lived in. Then he passes by the automail shop, notices the name of the people who live there...

Only, I think he may well have been watching after the transmutation went awry, and saw Al leaving the house with a rather bleeding Ed, then followed along. It isn't entirely specific that Roy was there to apologize, so it may have just been happenstance. However much we'd like to believe otherwise!
_neith__neith_ on January 26th, 2004 05:36 pm (UTC)
It isn't entirely specific that Roy was there to apologize, so it may have just been happenstance.

Well, I'm not so sure about the apologizing part But he might like to check in to make sure she had other family or somebody else taking care of her.
kimisaeireba on January 26th, 2004 05:37 pm (UTC)
Ahh yes, very true.
Tashatasha_mac on January 26th, 2004 07:59 pm (UTC)
I just rewatched that scene in episode 3, when Al wakes up after being attached to the armor.

Anyone else wonder when Ed found the time to fry the monster? That...really gross noise when what's left is close and the brothers are far away...as well as the smoke...suggest the creature was burned.

Maybe Edward didn't hear Roy talking at Granny's house.
Tashatasha_mac on January 26th, 2004 08:00 pm (UTC)
And then I kept watching.

Eh...perhaps not. But that idea would help explain how Ed had the time to do everything that happened between when Al disappeared and when he woke up.
kimisaeireba on January 26th, 2004 08:19 pm (UTC)
I dunno, I think Al would've been up and around by then. But that's certainly an interesting possibility, which isn't out of the realm of such with the anime.
ciceqi on January 26th, 2004 11:07 pm (UTC)
Heh...that line's been bugging me for the last hour (hey, I just watched this, just now!), and...I dunno, my first thought was "...that he went to Granny's place to see us."

I mean, if he was there to look for the dad, and the dad wasn't there, he didn't really have any obligation to check up on the kids...except that they'd suddenly just become interesting after lighting the house up like that. Or who knows, maybe he had another reason to be interested in Hoenhime's kids. But then, I'm not totally convinced he realized Winry's parents were the same Rockbells until he realized Ed and the Doc were freaked about them. I can't remember--does it have their name on the Auto-Mail sign out front? Cos if not, and he'd just seen this whopping big suit of armor carrying a messed-up kid to the house down the hill (or wherever), he might not have stopped to ask who lived there, he'd just have gone. After searching the Elric place, naturally, heh... To be totally horrible, he might have just followed the blood trail.

But of course, anything's possible...I kinda like the open possibilities, heh! Then again--there seems to be a lot more interaction between them in the manga version (vol. 6), so maybe that'd shed some light on things...