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28 September 2004 @ 09:10 am
For some odd reason it took me a second view to realize the irony...  

Probably because I was too shocked at what happened immediately after to think at first. And for some reason I assume that the rest of you already know this, but I'm sharing it anyway.

"Then he abandoned me. You must understand, right? Why I hate him..."

Envy hates Hohenheim for abandoning him -- a lot.

Guess who else felt the same? Ed! Ironic, isn't it?

Furthermore, most of their passion and motivation comes from that fact. Though it seems Ed has matured a lot in his travels and moved on, but at least in the beggining it seemed most of his energy came from the hatred of his father (Probably because that directly caused Trisha to get depressed, causing her to grow ill and die, causing Ed and Al to try human transmutation and lose their limbs in the first place, causing everything that followed...)...but yeah, Envy similarly seems to be very passionate about anything relating to Hohenheim, and is mostly motivated by his hatred towards him.

So really, Ed and Envy aren't too different -- they're practically the same!...minus the whole hating humanity and loving to watch people suffer thing.

Therefore I declare that irony is good, and that this calls for some hawt Ed x Envy action. Yep >_>;
angsty lemon ukewabisuke on September 28th, 2004 09:26 am (UTC)
Haha. I brought that up in another thread once but haven't seen anyone really address it.
Saya Aensland: BWAHAHA!saya_aensland on September 28th, 2004 09:27 am (UTC)
Therefore I declare that irony is good, and that this calls for some hawt Ed x Envy action. Yep >_>;

And let's have Envy in his true form, so it'll be hot blonde-on-blonde action as well. Everybody loves blonde-on-blonde action.
The One Hiding in Your Shadow...BOO!: Greed - Big Pimpin'teracia on September 28th, 2004 09:34 am (UTC)
Lmao. Ain't that the truth. XD
angsty lemon uke: [envy blade] //sennuyerwabisuke on September 28th, 2004 09:35 am (UTC)

i also think it's ironic that Envy chose a form that is pretty much the total opposite of everything of his true form. Course, that's probably a given. I just found it wtf that the spiky palm tree look turned into flowing bishie blonde hair. =P
brosef stalin, leader of the broletariat.: are you pondering what I'm pondering?arisato on September 28th, 2004 09:52 am (UTC)
e n v y ME?envylicious on September 28th, 2004 09:43 am (UTC)
Yup, it's really so ironic. Two different characters are practically the same... But they have two different ways to express their hate, and that's the point. And I must say it, I just luv Envy, but I cant luv Ed. I just hate him >
mica_chan: DN_parrotdroppings_Lmica_chan on September 29th, 2004 01:26 pm (UTC)
And we have always to remember that while Edward had Trisha by his side (until she died), Envy had Dante.....and...well...Dante isn't exactly a very good maternal figure.

By the way...do you think true Envy is beautiful? Because I think. He's hot in any form...even though I prefer his spiky black hair ^_^
Jyubiamytwo on September 28th, 2004 10:26 am (UTC)
I am totally supportive of any and all hawt EnvyXEd action, regardless of the circumstances. XD

But that is an interesting connection. Never really thought about it like that.
Poison Envy: =# [by hork13bajir5]winter_ruins on September 28th, 2004 02:27 pm (UTC)
mikkeneko on September 28th, 2004 12:21 pm (UTC)
I don't think there's anything particularly revelationary to it... It just means that Envy's hatred of Ed is completely irrational. *shrug*
reversing the polarity of the neutron flow: maes hughes. fma. [indangerment] x moishinraisei on September 28th, 2004 03:46 pm (UTC)
This series was totally submerged in irony at many points. (ie. Us and Roy's crew knowing about Hughes' death and the Elric brothers not knowing it at all for a long time and many more things)

But yeah, that is ironic and saying "Elric brothers" sounds wierd now. (Me: The Elric Brothers; Sum1: Which ones?)
mikkeneko on September 28th, 2004 04:38 pm (UTC)
Um... is Envy even an Elric brother at all? O_o 'Cause he's not Trisha's son. And as far as I know, Elric was Trisha's name. Hohenheim is Hohenheim of Light, not Hohenheim Elric that I know of.

I could be wrong; please find the episode where someone refers to him as 'Hohenheim Elric' and I'll change my mind.
reversing the polarity of the neutron flowshinraisei on September 28th, 2004 05:02 pm (UTC)
Hohenheim is Hohenheim Elric. Remember the letters? ;)

But I consider Envy to be a brother of thiers like how I consider my 8 older half siblings to be full brothers and sisters. ^^; (And I barely know them XD...the diff between Ed and Envy is that we don't want to kill each other and we don't hate are dad xDDD;;;;;....)
mica_chan: DN_parrotdroppings_Lmica_chan on September 29th, 2004 01:56 pm (UTC)
The irony is that the Elric brothers didn't know about Hughges death....least the one that killed the guy (because now we now that it was one of the 'Elric' brothers that killed Hughes ^_^).
Wiccat: Cheetah Envy (rootoftheoracle)wiccat on September 29th, 2004 01:24 am (UTC)
I give my full support for hot Envy x Ed action! And maybe even some Ed x Envy action! XD