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28 September 2004 @ 09:33 am
An introduction--somewhat opinionated, hold onto your butts  
*waves* Hello all. I go by the handle Nabuca online usually. I'm both new and not new...I've been watching this community on and off before I decided to subscribe to it. Got into FMA sometime after Febraury, read both the manga as well as watch the anime. Big supporter of Ed and Winry, as well as Roy and Riza, because yes I must do the whole cliche "My favorite pairings are blah blah blah!!!1one"

Where someone to really ask me what my favorite pairings are, or if I'm a supporter of yaoi/shonen ai, or yuri/shoujo ai, you'd might as well ask me if I'm into romance novels or something. I really seem to lack what alot of fans have, and thats the understanding of the huge hype over same-sex pairings, more specifically same sex pairings between two males. It really makes me wonder if this is merely the result of the fact that current modern-day thought--to be more specific--the U.S. culture in general, is highly repressed. The U.S. in and of itself was founded on very strict Puritanical principles. Not only was homosexuality highly discouraged for a long time in history, or more specifically U.S. history, so has sexuality in general. Now that times are starting to change, I find people, mostly young females, latching onto the whole homosexual phenomenon like rebellious teens after a bottle of their father's booze. And I make this metaphor because, for example, in Europe drinking laws (and depending on where you are, NO drinking laws), are far more lax there than in the U.S. And yet still there are far-less alcohol-induced crimes there than in the U.S. I was raised by an Irish Roman Catholic household, the laws against me drinking where very lax within family circles, and yes although I've done my fair share stupid things under the influence, I've always taken responsibility afterwards, and I've never really seen alcohol as such a big deal as most kids around me did. By the same token, I myself am a transgendered bisexual male (FtoM). All of my decently-sized circle of friends I surround myself with are gay or lesbian, with the exception of one. All of us seem also to not grok the hype over same-sex pairings in anime fandoms, unless of course such pairing is already present, or hinted at such. I used to think that this was a thing mostly common with straight young females, but then I am also under the understanding that either a.) older, or b.) gay/lesbian females and males share this hype too, but as I understand it those numbers are a bit fewer. I've watched the pattern of same-sex pairing fans in the GWing fandom, and I'm noticing similar patterns in the growing FMA-fandom as well. Though personally...I am of the opinion that FMA as a whole really is NOT condusive to same-sex pairings. Then again I'm not a romance-novel type person either, just in general. I've written a small handful of shonen ai fics back in the day. I'm not sure if I pulled it off right, and I notice most people who do, don't seem to pull it off right either, but then again I'm really not one to judge that, so I generally avoid it altogether with a few exceptions. At any rate, it really seems to me like the whole "must pair the prettyboys together"-thing has gotten so out of hand in recent years. Its as if some people are desperate enough to pair someone with anyone or anything with a phallus...OMG EdxTree-stump!!!11

Now...understand that just because I don't agree to something or subscribe to a certain thought, does not mean that I don't respect other people's right to agree with a certian thing or subscribe to that thought. This rant is merely a musing over what I see as a common trend that has flared up over the past several years. It also expresses my wish to participate in some more refreshing lines of conversation...I found loyalwolf108's informative post a rather refreshing change from the usual talk and banter that goes on in fandom communities. For one thing, I've always had an invested interest and fascination with Hermetic Philosophy or alchemy (I found myself very intrigued when I first discovered FMA's exhistence), and it would be interesting to see more discussion on the alchemical symbolism in FMA or the poetic licensing that goes on in the series versus real-world alchemy and alchemical principles. This is assuming that not many conversations of like have gone on already, and I am merely too daft to have seen it, or merely too busy with stuff outside of the glowing computer monitor, as what tends to happen frequently.

At any rate, I'm done. I feel as if I've rambled like a homeless wino, and perhaps I have, though in all reality I'm merely just waking up and waiting for the caffeine in my coffee to slam my system. I will, therefore, go back to lurking, and nursing my skull. Somedays I feel like a flaming zeppelin fell down onto my head.

>.>...

Yes.

~Nabuca
 
 
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Mizukori: D::::mizukori on September 28th, 2004 10:56 am (UTC)
I agree so much it hurts. ^^;;. I like pairings for what they are-- I used to love 3x4 from GW, for example, just as much as I loved Rocketshippy from Pokemon. I fail to see the point in pairing incompatible people (ie: Roy/Ed) just for hot sex scenes. It's actually kind of nasty. \: Roy/Ed isn't even just yaoi; it's shouta. How is that hot? x.x;; Isn't that a crime in most countries?

I enjoy FMA for being FMA. I get so aggrivated when I can't find a decent fanfiction NOT based around a pairing. I don't MIND Al/Winry, Roy/Riza, Winry/Sceizka, or Ed/Rose, but... most of the other pairings (namely Ed/random Sins, Ed/Roy, and Ed/Winry) will keep me as far away from a fanfiction as possible, regardless of how minor the relationship is compared to the plot.

Oh, and Elricest. Doesn't that kind of spoil the theme of the show? x_x.;;

I'm generally all for keeping quiet and letting people enjoy their fandoms, but it does get it to me when I can't find a decent no-pairing fanfiction out of the 500-or-so on the Internet.
Marikaitou_marina on September 28th, 2004 11:00 am (UTC)
Actually, no, Ed/Roy isn't shota. Ed's 15/16 (at least later in the series), well out of shota range. Shota boys are generally 12-13 and under.
Mizukorimizukori on September 28th, 2004 11:07 am (UTC)
Then going by the American term-- it is pedophilia.

"The act or fantasy on the part of an adult of engaging in sexual activity with a child or children."

As we are constantly reminded in FMA, Ed is a child. He's 15 for the entire manga thus far, and for about half of the TV series, which in all states makes him a child-- in some that goes to 18.

The point is, Roy is twice his age. x.x;; And realisticly speaking, Ed's a little too caught up in curing his brother to take time to screw his commanding officer... who in my mind is one of the straightest characters I've seen in an anime. ^^;;;.

This is just my opinion, though... <_<;;. Sorry if I offend.
Marikaitou_marina on September 28th, 2004 11:14 am (UTC)
Not offended at all, I only come from the standpoint that to the Japanese, that wouldn't be considered pedophilia, since the age of consent in Japan is 16 (it used to be 14 until recently when it was upped to discourage compensation dating). I try to view aspects of anime, manga and Japanese doujinshi with how I understand a Japanese person might view it. That doesn't make it any more correct, just different ^.^;;

I was by no means saying "OMG YOU'RE WRONG ED AND ROY SHOULD BE HAVING THE HOT SEXXORS!" I was merely debating semantics, so to speak. I happen to agree that Ed's too occupied with Al to have anything remotely to do with a relationship right now.
heliwood on September 28th, 2004 12:32 pm (UTC)
Hmm...
Actually, that is a good point. However, given their backgrounds, and the underlying conflict, I wouldn't see it happening either way, so I think its all moretheless a moot point.
Marikaitou_marina on September 28th, 2004 01:48 pm (UTC)
Re: Hmm...
Oh, no, as I mentioned above, that doesn't mean they SHOULD be sleeping together. I was only pointing out an error in definition ^.^
heliwood on September 28th, 2004 12:30 pm (UTC)
Thank you.
I fail to see the point in pairing incompatible people (ie: Roy/Ed) just for hot sex scenes. It's actually kind of nasty. \: Roy/Ed isn't even just yaoi; it's shouta. How is that hot? x.x;; Isn't that a crime in most countries?


YES. Exactly. I think its rather skeevy IMHO.

, but it does get it to me when I can't find a decent no-pairing fanfiction out of the 500-or-so on the Internet.

We share the same conflict then :P