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28 September 2004 @ 09:33 am
An introduction--somewhat opinionated, hold onto your butts  
*waves* Hello all. I go by the handle Nabuca online usually. I'm both new and not new...I've been watching this community on and off before I decided to subscribe to it. Got into FMA sometime after Febraury, read both the manga as well as watch the anime. Big supporter of Ed and Winry, as well as Roy and Riza, because yes I must do the whole cliche "My favorite pairings are blah blah blah!!!1one"

Where someone to really ask me what my favorite pairings are, or if I'm a supporter of yaoi/shonen ai, or yuri/shoujo ai, you'd might as well ask me if I'm into romance novels or something. I really seem to lack what alot of fans have, and thats the understanding of the huge hype over same-sex pairings, more specifically same sex pairings between two males. It really makes me wonder if this is merely the result of the fact that current modern-day thought--to be more specific--the U.S. culture in general, is highly repressed. The U.S. in and of itself was founded on very strict Puritanical principles. Not only was homosexuality highly discouraged for a long time in history, or more specifically U.S. history, so has sexuality in general. Now that times are starting to change, I find people, mostly young females, latching onto the whole homosexual phenomenon like rebellious teens after a bottle of their father's booze. And I make this metaphor because, for example, in Europe drinking laws (and depending on where you are, NO drinking laws), are far more lax there than in the U.S. And yet still there are far-less alcohol-induced crimes there than in the U.S. I was raised by an Irish Roman Catholic household, the laws against me drinking where very lax within family circles, and yes although I've done my fair share stupid things under the influence, I've always taken responsibility afterwards, and I've never really seen alcohol as such a big deal as most kids around me did. By the same token, I myself am a transgendered bisexual male (FtoM). All of my decently-sized circle of friends I surround myself with are gay or lesbian, with the exception of one. All of us seem also to not grok the hype over same-sex pairings in anime fandoms, unless of course such pairing is already present, or hinted at such. I used to think that this was a thing mostly common with straight young females, but then I am also under the understanding that either a.) older, or b.) gay/lesbian females and males share this hype too, but as I understand it those numbers are a bit fewer. I've watched the pattern of same-sex pairing fans in the GWing fandom, and I'm noticing similar patterns in the growing FMA-fandom as well. Though personally...I am of the opinion that FMA as a whole really is NOT condusive to same-sex pairings. Then again I'm not a romance-novel type person either, just in general. I've written a small handful of shonen ai fics back in the day. I'm not sure if I pulled it off right, and I notice most people who do, don't seem to pull it off right either, but then again I'm really not one to judge that, so I generally avoid it altogether with a few exceptions. At any rate, it really seems to me like the whole "must pair the prettyboys together"-thing has gotten so out of hand in recent years. Its as if some people are desperate enough to pair someone with anyone or anything with a phallus...OMG EdxTree-stump!!!11

Now...understand that just because I don't agree to something or subscribe to a certain thought, does not mean that I don't respect other people's right to agree with a certian thing or subscribe to that thought. This rant is merely a musing over what I see as a common trend that has flared up over the past several years. It also expresses my wish to participate in some more refreshing lines of conversation...I found loyalwolf108's informative post a rather refreshing change from the usual talk and banter that goes on in fandom communities. For one thing, I've always had an invested interest and fascination with Hermetic Philosophy or alchemy (I found myself very intrigued when I first discovered FMA's exhistence), and it would be interesting to see more discussion on the alchemical symbolism in FMA or the poetic licensing that goes on in the series versus real-world alchemy and alchemical principles. This is assuming that not many conversations of like have gone on already, and I am merely too daft to have seen it, or merely too busy with stuff outside of the glowing computer monitor, as what tends to happen frequently.

At any rate, I'm done. I feel as if I've rambled like a homeless wino, and perhaps I have, though in all reality I'm merely just waking up and waiting for the caffeine in my coffee to slam my system. I will, therefore, go back to lurking, and nursing my skull. Somedays I feel like a flaming zeppelin fell down onto my head.



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リミックス・サクラ: sasusakuremix_sakura on September 28th, 2004 06:59 am (UTC)
In general, I consider myself to be a shounen-ai fangirl, since most of the couples I support are male/male, though some are also het. But I've always considered myself to be on the outside of rabid, squealing fangirlism that makes really ridiculous pairings. I get pissed off at fans too (I had to leave the Gundam Wing fandom after a while because the whole thing was just saturated with yaoi, and it was just sad). In this fandom I think Roy x Ed is completely nonsensical and completely not supported by the series. But I don't believe that it's only a trend. To be perfectly honest, I think in general the idea of two attractive males in a romantic/sexual relationship is cute/hot, somehow more cute/hot than a heterosexual relationship, even though I'm a heterosexual female. I don't know why exactly, but that's how I feel. You might have a point about it just being a "trend" but that can't be the only reason. Shounen-ai is certainly something different, and something that's hard to find outside of the anime and manga world because of people's taboos. But to be perfectly honest I think we all just like it for the unique turn-on. If that's perverted, so be it. I don't think of homosexuality as something that only exists for porn, it's also something that defines people's lives. I just enjoy seeing cute bishounen kiss. that's all.
heliwood on September 28th, 2004 07:04 am (UTC)
I don't see it as something that only exhists for porn either, hardly, but I tend to look at it the same way I look at straight relationships...perhaps its because I'm bi, I'm really not sure. You do bring up some good points, however. Perhaps its the same reason why some guys like to see two girls make out. And I definately feel your pain on the rabid squealing fangirls and the GWing fandom...it just...wow. Yeah okay. That would be a separate rant altogether.
神村菊子: Gekka Gackt by TEH MAN kamiwannabekikuko_kamimura on September 28th, 2004 07:33 am (UTC)
First of all, kudos to you for having the guts to post this in a community, and thank you for actually having a well-written rant (very much appreciated by people who think capital letters and periods are our friends).

I myself support any kind of relationship as far as anime goes, as long as I feel it's supported by the content of the series (my rant on EdxRoy--Roy makes fun of Ed. That does not mean OMGTHEIRLOVEISSOPURE, it means Roy's an ass. Not to mention Roy outranks Ed, and that would be a liiiiiittle abuse of power, I think, more than a loving relationship--but again, just my feeling).

I don't really understand the 'trend' as it were, except for the reason that you pointed out, that it's somehow rebellious, or that admittedly, the way homosexual couples tend to go about love is more "cute", considering that the experimentation/OMG AM I GAY??!! stage is usually there in some respect, which heterosexual couples don't really have to go through. Also unlike het relationships they can bring on the feeling with readers/watchers that the pairing is the only real one for the characters in question, especially if one or both characters have endured a lot emotionally to finally get involved with the other person (as opposed to the het "Oh, god, just run off and get some other guy/girl" mentality). But, this part of the thought does of course suggest that the pairing is hinted at or blatantly stated in the series in question, so it really has no bearing when it comes to blindingly pairing people/inanimate objects for the hell of it, which I don't believe in at all.

Forgive my lack of coherence, I'm writing this while very tired, and it is very early. Hopefully my opinions won't start a flame war, here. ^^;;
heliwood on September 28th, 2004 09:50 am (UTC)
Thank you very much, and I really don't think you're opinions will cause a flamewar, as far as I've seen they've been presented in a mature manner.

It seems to me as if some people will pair any set of males together just for the sake of seeing two males in a relationship. Fanon pairings are highly on crack. And fully agreed on the whole RoyxEd-thing...I try to understand where people are coming from on that but sofar its done nothing but make my braincells commit mass suicide like a bunch of lemmings.
breakin' through the door: Group - Winry's Available!?miss_arel on September 28th, 2004 07:51 am (UTC)
Yes, kudos to you for having the guts to rant about yaoi/yuri/whatever in and FMA comm . . . ^_^

I dunno, for me, I support pairings that make sense to me. If it's a dynamic that I like, and I can see it happening, and it makes sense, then that's good. And the nice thing about FMA is that since romance in the story is practically nonexistant, one can have a lot of fun with subtext. But yaoi, yuri, or het; as long as it makes sense to me, I'm fine with it. (So yeah, EdxTreeStump is kinda out of the question. EdxRoy, on the other hand . . . wouldn't be all lovey-dovey, certainly, but I could actually see that happening.)

Anyway, nice to meet you; I can tell you're going to have a lot to say in this comm. Take care!
Naa - それをすべての錬金術師知りなさい: WAY too much // naanaa on September 28th, 2004 07:56 am (UTC)
Strange in this thread but you're icon is funny!
(no subject) - miss_arel on September 28th, 2004 11:13 am (UTC) (Expand)
Naa - それをすべての錬金術師知りなさい: bring it on // naanaa on September 28th, 2004 07:56 am (UTC)
I understand what you're talking about; looking for good fics all I find is yaoi... I'm not against it, but I'm not a big supporter either and I'm disgusted over the excessiveness of it, just the excessiveness mind you, not about the idea in general. It’s everywhere I look and it’s thrusted in my face, I know the rule if I don’t like it don’t look/read it but if that’s all I find I can’t help it. I support good old fashion hentai pairings!

heliwood on September 28th, 2004 09:47 am (UTC)
Note I don't think this is true for ALL yaoi fans, but I notice the really rabid ones have this "in your face", or otherwise obnoxious mentality I find very irritating. And yes, the excessiveness has really gotten not only cliche but redundant as well, and even when one tries to not pay attention to it its still in your face in some cases. In short, I grok where you're coming from, believe me.
that song;than on September 28th, 2004 08:43 am (UTC)
Welcome, and another "yay" for your well written rant. I guess I missed the "omg edxhello kitty doll!" phase; for me, I've always liked yaoi things, and of course their are yuri/hetero relationships that I love too . I definitely understand what you mean with the analogy between teenage girls and male/male things and getting into a liquor cabinet. Um, yeah, just wanted to say hi and welcome. And your "some days I feel like a flaming zeppelin fell down onto my head" made me laugh.
heliwood on September 28th, 2004 10:03 am (UTC)
*turns all cartoony and makes large sad puppy-dog eyes a la Wile E. Coyote and pops open a tiny umbrella as a huge flaming zeppelin comes crashing down*
Re: *grins* - than on September 28th, 2004 01:32 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Re: *grins* - shinraisei on September 28th, 2004 07:08 pm (UTC) (Expand)
レテル: don't understand + _metamorphiclethael on September 28th, 2004 09:16 am (UTC)
OMG EdxTree-stump!!!11 *snicker* It's sad because it's true.
I'd also like to applaud you for the well-written rant.
I'm bi (more like somewhere between lesbian and bi, but whatever) and I really only like canon pairings, whatever that may be. Fan pairings don't make sense, and rabid pairing fangirls scare me. *nod*
heliwood on September 28th, 2004 09:45 am (UTC)
Yes, it SO is true.

And the day a fan pairing makes sense is the day I see pigs flying formation over LaGuardia.
ex_saraswath377 on September 28th, 2004 09:36 am (UTC)
This is a topic I've always wanted to write a rant about but never got around to it. ^_^ (Too busy with school or writing fics, I guess.)

I think there's an overemphasis on pairings in general, especially in a series like FMA where love is so NOT the focus. Sometimes I want to read gen fic and I can't find it and then I throw things at my computer. So then I go write gen-fic instead of doing homework. Heh. (Working on Liza 12 themes this week..)

As to your overprevalance of yaoi rant, I would have to agree that some people just start randomly pairing other people up - but if they say "This is totally nonsensical, and not based in canon, and I'm just doing it for fun" and are open about it, I'm all for it. That's randomness, and they're not taking themselves seriously. It's the "omgthispairingistheendofeverything" that makes me mad. And the badly-written stuff where people are acting out of character. And the flaming about pairings. Silliness.

I, personally, like both Liza/Roy and Ed/Roy (and absolutely hate seme-uke/het variant terminology so I randomize who's listed first). The Liza/Roy subtext is rather undeniable now in both the anime and the manga, and whether you take it as a relationship of extreme respect/friendship/closeness or romantic love I think is up to your own preferences. With Roy/Ed one could say "yeah, Roy's an ass" and have that as an explanation, but I was *in* a 3-year relationship where the two of us acted like that so for me it makes sense. Then there's the age difference (which would bother me in a normal situation), but Ed's maturity level is much higher than someone else his age.

Which is precisely why I think Ed/Winry wouldn't work - Ed's far surpassed Winry in maturity level, even if Winry does like him that way. But that's my own personal opinion, and there may be an Ed/Winry fic yet that sways my opinion. Hasn't happened yet, though.

So I guess my point is that there are those of us who occasionally like yaoi pairings for solid reasons but don't find yaoi in *everything*.
heliwood on September 28th, 2004 09:54 am (UTC)
I must disagree with this, and for many reasons, but what I will state here is that I think Ed and Winry are very even in maturity but express it in different ways. I highly doubt that any relationship between Ed and Roy would work, its something I never could understand, and I've given up trying. I think this also proves my point that Winry is grossly under-appreciated and misunderstood. I love the girl, I find her to be a very strong-willed and courageous character.

Re: Hmm. - ex_saraswath377 on September 28th, 2004 10:19 am (UTC) (Expand)
Re: Hmm. - kaitou_marina on September 28th, 2004 10:41 am (UTC) (Expand)
Re: Hmm. - ex_saraswath377 on September 28th, 2004 06:16 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Re: Hmm. - nalavashi on September 28th, 2004 10:45 am (UTC) (Expand)
Re: Hmm. - ex_saraswath377 on September 28th, 2004 06:20 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Re: Hmm. - spooks21 on September 28th, 2004 11:12 am (UTC) (Expand)
Re: Hmm. - kaitou_marina on September 28th, 2004 11:19 am (UTC) (Expand)
Re: Hmm. - whimsy_chan on September 28th, 2004 12:30 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Re: Hmm. - spooks21 on September 28th, 2004 12:39 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Re: Hmm. - whimsy_chan on September 28th, 2004 12:47 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Re: Hmm. - ex_saraswath377 on September 28th, 2004 06:27 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Re: Hmm. - spooks21 on September 28th, 2004 09:24 pm (UTC) (Expand)
melodrama queen: ringo2insomniel on September 28th, 2004 09:44 am (UTC)
thank you, thank you for writing this rant. i understand your feelings and it has actually been this particular fandom that has really turned yaoi off to me. i love fma because of its plot and characters, not because of the random whoo hoo monkey sex that obviously does not exist except in the mind of a rabid fangirl/guy. this is not to say that i don't mind male/male relationships esp. canon ones, but i think random scary fan relationships really run an anime or manga series down, at least for me. one of those cases where one person's turnon is another person's turnoff. but it's not like you can do much about a fandom, just sigh and say things like "back in my day..." hah hah. and i hope people have more interesting things to say that we all haven't heard before with two other guys in completely unrelated series.
heliwood on September 28th, 2004 10:00 am (UTC)
i love fma because of its plot and characters, not because of the random whoo hoo monkey sex that obviously does not exist except in the mind of a rabid fangirl/guy.

THANK YOU. I wish I could say something other than that but I'm currently just sitting and being appreciative that there are other intelligent types on this list who share these views.

but i think random scary fan relationships really run an anime or manga series down, at least for me.

I tend to agree with that. Just take a look at the GWing fandom...God that group can be an abomination. And note that Gundam Wing is one of my favorite anime series. But it seems like something hits the states and the fangirls latch onto it and...ugh. And although its still one of my favorites, I'm sadly rather tired of it.

angsty lemon ukewabisuke on September 28th, 2004 10:10 am (UTC)
From the way I act a lot on the boards, you'd probably think I was a crazy fangirl. But as I see it, as long as people have some sense of "reality" of how the actual storyline/characters are instead of distorting the character to their own liking completely (ie: admitting Roy is a bastard), then all is well. There are a lot of scary fanatical shippers that are all "omgwtf. u r stupid. CharacterAxCharacterB 4eva <3 <3 <3" in any fandom but luckily, that doesn't seem to be a problem here...at least HERE anyways and most things can get easily skipped over anyways. That I think is far more annoying than seeing CharacterAxCharacterB things that don't make that much sense being posted everywhere. I guess since FMA is a pretty much non-romance based story, people want to make up for that because that adds something to the fandom.

Since I don't really have the time to make a really well-thought out comment nor do I sound intellegent anyways...

welcome to the group.
Nalavashi: Al & Ednalavashi on September 28th, 2004 10:36 am (UTC)
There are a lot of scary fanatical shippers that are all "omgwtf. u r stupid. CharacterAxCharacterB 4eva <3 <3 <3" in any fandom but luckily, that doesn't seem to be a problem here...at least HERE anyways

That got me thinking... Most of the FMA fans I know are older, so they're pretty well past that teeny-bopper age. But what will happen when the dub is released and the show is exposed to so many more people? Will the fandom suddenly be over-run by teenies, with Mary Sue at their side? x_x' One of the things I love most about the FMA fandom is that you can actually have an intelligent conversation with someone without another person jumping in with stuff like "OMG ED IZ MAH HUZBAND I'LL KILL U!!!1!!!!1" >.<;
Ugh. - heliwood on September 28th, 2004 12:37 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Ananomoreprinces on September 28th, 2004 10:16 am (UTC)
I think a lot of the appeal of yaoi/s-ai goes a lot deeper into the female pysche than the average person thinks about.

True a lot of the fans who are the most vocal are young, maybe in their mid-late teens. Then there are those like me who are in the mid-range in life. I'm in my late 20s approaching 30 on the horizon and those in my circle of association are of the same age or same mindset. Yaoi/s-ai takes on a whole different set of thinking when you're on this end of the fandom.

A common thread I see among my peers of older women is that the appeal of yaoi isn't just the artistic value of seeing two beautifully drawn men together intimately. Yes there is that, but there's also the fact that we (and I'm talking from a fic writer's persepective here) can step into the minds of these men and try to come to an understanding of why they do the things they do. Try to find a meaning for the crap they pull and why they have to make things so difficult. In my circle we've all been jilted pretty harshly by men. Broken marriages, vicisous fighting, infidelity. Harshly learned life lessons that happen later in life. Yaoi/s-ai allows us to see men in a more appreciative light. It gives us control over men, and allows us to see them the way we want to see them.

Yes at this point it becomes more harlequinn based, but for women who have been through the ringer with lousy men, it's a much needed healing process.

You have no idea how many of my friends adore and agree with the icon I have now. It was a joke, but it holds true. The reason why these animated men are so much better is because we can make them exactly who we want our men to be. True it flies in the face of accepting reality, but who wants to be there? :p
breakin' through the door: Hawkeye - Thunderbirdmiss_arel on September 28th, 2004 11:40 am (UTC)
Amen to that, sister. Amen to that.
Hmm.. - heliwood on September 28th, 2004 12:20 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - kuromitsu on September 28th, 2004 03:20 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Himemiya: FMA threatening mehimemiyapinku on September 28th, 2004 10:20 am (UTC)
Non-wordy answer, I am very sleepy x.x

A girl liking yaoi is a way for her to think about sexual situations without including herself.

I like yaoi/yuri because I see homosexual relationships as more normal than hetero ones. Why? Because I am homosexual and stupid. :D
Marikaitou_marina on September 28th, 2004 10:27 am (UTC)
I used to think that this was a thing mostly common with straight young females, but then I am also under the understanding that either a.) older, or b.) gay/lesbian females and males share this hype too, but as I understand it those numbers are a bit fewer.

Actually, in my experience, it's quite untrue that homosexual (at least on the lesbian front) fans are in the minority. A great deal of the fans that I'm aware of (at least half of them) are lesbians (or at the very least bisexual), myself included. It seemed that way when I went to Y-Con last year too. I suppose it all depends on one's experience and who they associate with though.

As for FMA and pairings, XD I don't 'ship anyone SERIOUSLY. I enjoy Ed/Roy on the side, mostly as a fun thing, but if it ever seriously happened in the show, I'd be like WTF!? O.o because it basically would have come out of nowhere. It's in no way a serious thing for me.

This is especially because of my opinion of Ed's character. I honestly don't believe that he'd allow himself to get involved in a (serious) relationship at this point in his life, because right now the most important person to him is Al. Once Al's fixed, he may allow himself that "luxury," but right now, no way. Scar said it best. Those two are living for each other. Al is almost completely Ed's world. And I don't mean that in the romantic sense at all XD Besides, Ed's only 15/16, he's theoretically got a long life ahead of him. There's no rush for him to be in love.

And I could almost say the same for Roy. Sure he womanizes like mad, but he doesn't strike me as someone ready to settle down in a serious relationship. Not due to his age or anything, but simply due to his ambitions and goals. His job would always come first.

I could ramble about other characters as well, but this comment is already WAY too long, so I'm going to shut up now XD CHEERS!
Mari: Talk to the handkaitou_marina on September 28th, 2004 10:30 am (UTC)
And to punctuate this statement, FMA yuri is FUN SHIT! XD
(no subject) - miss_arel on September 28th, 2004 11:39 am (UTC) (Expand)
Hmm.. - heliwood on September 28th, 2004 12:24 pm (UTC) (Expand)
-rosa_aquafire on September 28th, 2004 10:28 am (UTC)
Well, for me, relationships are just relationships. My main FMA ships are Ed/Roze, Al/Winry, Hohenehim/Dante and Roy/Riza. However, I also ships Hughes/Roy and Winry/Schiezka on the side. I don`t give any different sexuality of relationship any precedence over an other ... I just happen to like relationships.

Do I like yaoi? OH YES. I think that two guys making out is sexy. Shoot me if you want. I don`t see how it`s any different from every other male in the world finding lesbians the hottest thing ever.

However, I keep that separate from my ships, you know? If it comes between shipping Ed/Roy and Ed/Roze, there is just NO debate for me. Ed/Roy doesn`t win because it`s two guys, Ed/Roze is more poetic and they have more chemistry. The only reason I support Hughes/Roy is because I think it would have worked as a past relationship that just didn`t work out, and the dynamic interests me.

My personal opinion on Roy/Ed is that it`s amusing, but it just ... eh. It`s good for porn, pretty much ^^;; It would never work in a real relationship.

Trends, for me, mean nothing. If anything, I`ll go against a trend just to be different, so yeah.

Kudos for being brave enough to post this!
heliwood on September 28th, 2004 12:27 pm (UTC)
Thank you...I couldn't see Ed/Roze, but well thats me. Personally, being both bisexual and transgendered, I tend to look at both ends of the buffet, so to speak, with an equally hungry eye, and that includes any mixture thereof *grin* I was told I'm greedy, but whatever, hehe.
Re: *nods* - rosa_aquafire on September 28th, 2004 12:29 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Mizukori: D::::mizukori on September 28th, 2004 10:56 am (UTC)
I agree so much it hurts. ^^;;. I like pairings for what they are-- I used to love 3x4 from GW, for example, just as much as I loved Rocketshippy from Pokemon. I fail to see the point in pairing incompatible people (ie: Roy/Ed) just for hot sex scenes. It's actually kind of nasty. \: Roy/Ed isn't even just yaoi; it's shouta. How is that hot? x.x;; Isn't that a crime in most countries?

I enjoy FMA for being FMA. I get so aggrivated when I can't find a decent fanfiction NOT based around a pairing. I don't MIND Al/Winry, Roy/Riza, Winry/Sceizka, or Ed/Rose, but... most of the other pairings (namely Ed/random Sins, Ed/Roy, and Ed/Winry) will keep me as far away from a fanfiction as possible, regardless of how minor the relationship is compared to the plot.

Oh, and Elricest. Doesn't that kind of spoil the theme of the show? x_x.;;

I'm generally all for keeping quiet and letting people enjoy their fandoms, but it does get it to me when I can't find a decent no-pairing fanfiction out of the 500-or-so on the Internet.
Marikaitou_marina on September 28th, 2004 11:00 am (UTC)
Actually, no, Ed/Roy isn't shota. Ed's 15/16 (at least later in the series), well out of shota range. Shota boys are generally 12-13 and under.
(no subject) - mizukori on September 28th, 2004 11:07 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - kaitou_marina on September 28th, 2004 11:14 am (UTC) (Expand)
Hmm... - heliwood on September 28th, 2004 12:32 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Re: Hmm... - kaitou_marina on September 28th, 2004 01:48 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Thank you. - heliwood on September 28th, 2004 12:30 pm (UTC) (Expand)
darjeeling darlingmalika on September 28th, 2004 12:11 pm (UTC)
I used to only ship yaoi/yuri pairings if they were canon, but then I realized... it's fanfiction (and fanart, but mostly the former). Emphasis on the fiction. The canon of any show I watch is bound to be great, but if you can't bend canon at all, what's the point of fanfiction? Of course, you can ship pairings without reading fanfiction or looking at fanart, but I think most of the pairing wars occur on fanfiction.net.

...but yeah, EdxTree-stump? HAUT. OTP!!!11
heliwood on September 28th, 2004 12:35 pm (UTC)

And you bring up a point in fiction, however I'd think that'd be stepping into the realms of OOC, and I was never really a big fan of that anyway. I could never read or write something that deviated from the base personality and background set up by the original idea, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't build on or appreciate people who built on it either.

Bah, I hope I'm making sense. Headache. Damnable zeppelins.
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